Dragon Ball Super vs. DC Comics and Marvel Comics Debate

[Yukaphile]

SSJGodGoku, this is as far as I am willing to accommodate you. I don't want to go back and copy and paste all those points I made. We can restart the debate, but I don't want to go to all that work. I'm not accusing you of being a coward. Maybe it's just that you don't wanna put in the same kind of work. And this time, I'll use quotes. Just... don't expect me to reply fast. I have other things on my mind past a debate I've barely if at all thought about in the past few months.

And now we can finally put to bed the notion that I am somehow a DBZ downplayer.

[clearspira]

Who are you talking to?
And is this Goku vs BOTH Marvel and DC together? Because those are unassailable odds. I don't care how strong he is; Avengers, Justice League, Teen Titans, Green Lantern Corps, Fantastic Four, and the X-Men all together? Come off it.

[Yukaphile]

I know, but try telling SSJGodGoku that. The dude honestly won't leave me alone. Every few weeks he nags me to keep continuing the debate I don't care about. I think it greatly upsets him that I don't think Goku could solo everyone in DC and Marvel, but... well, I don't. Goku would lose. I tried telling him Zeno-sama himself could not solo everyone in DC and Marvel, and he didn't listen. But he keeps at it, so... whatever. Here I am.

[SSJGodGoku]

Name any Marvel/DC faggot and I'll explain how Goku rapes them.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Iron Fist. Best martial artist in MU.

[Yukaphile]

OMFG... and you call me biased?

Well, I think Flash could do it. Flash could steal Goku's speed, turn him into a stone statue, and Goku hasn't shown any kind of resistance to that hax. Hell, Dabura's spit turned Krillin and Piccolo into statues, so... there you go. Flash is faster than death, faster than instantaneous time (so Instant Transmission is no good), and can be measured down to individual planck seconds. And he also fucked up Anti-Monitor, which, as you'll know from Crisis on Infinite Earths, was taking out universes and a whole multiverse. And before you begin bringing up times other characters beat him, that's DC and Marvel. Characters beat other characters they shouldn't logically because "rule of cool," and "I like this guy more than the other" says the writer. It's not like DBZ with a clear chart showing upward scaling and ABC logic. I'm talking at his absolute best, Flash destroys.

[Madner Kami]

Name any Marvel/DC faggot and I'll explain how Goku rapes them.

The One-Above-All for ̶m̶̶c̶̶u̶ MU.

[Yukaphile]

Has TOAA actually appeared in the MCU? I know the MCU tends to depower the characters and their feats.

[SSJGodGoku]

Iron Fist. Best martial artist in MU.

He's just street level. Goku could beat him back in DB.

Well, I think Flash could do it. Flash could steal Goku's speed, turn him into a stone statue, and Goku hasn't shown any kind of resistance to that hax.

Goku is faster than time itself as shown when he outpaced Hit's timeskip, and that was even before Ultra Instinct. Flash wouldn't know what hit him.

And he also fucked up Anti-Monitor, which, as you'll know from Crisis on Infinite Earths, was taking out universes and a whole multiverse. And before you begin bringing up times other characters beat him, that's DC and Marvel. Characters beat other characters they shouldn't logically because "rule of cool," and "I like this guy more than the other" says the writer. It's not like DBZ with a clear chart showing upward scaling and ABC logic.

And you just shot down your own point, lol.

The One-Above-All for MCU.

He has no feats. He loses by default.

[Madner Kami]

Has TOAA actually appeared in the MCU? I know the MCU tends to depower the characters and their feats.

Argueably in every single movie, in the guise of Stan Lee (The-One-Above-All appeared as Stan Lee in one comic-book issue, so there's at least a protential connection). I meant to write MU though.

The One-Above-All for MCU.

He has no feats. He loses by default.

Um... What?