Dragon Ball Super vs. DC Comics and Marvel Comics Debate

[SSJGodGoku]

Wow, this has escalated since I last looked at this. So, Mr GodGoku, it is obvious by your name that you are a bit of a fanboy lets say. Nothing wrong with that, i've proven that I am to classic Star Trek I expect. But it is blinding you. Especially thanks to teaming up both Marvel and DC you have just teamed up Reed Richards and Batman, two men famous for going up against godlike enemies and wiping the floor with them using their extreme cunning.

Really, what do you think they're going to do? Bulma is smarter than both of them put together and even her technology can't make a difference in DB fights most of the time.

In an in-canon comic, this fight is ending with everyone else holding Goku down

No one could even touch him with Ultra Instinct.

whilst Reed comes in with the ultimate nullifier

The thing that you can't even use without killing yourself?

or a gun that opens the phantom or negative zone, or he will go off and mimic the infinity gems somehow. Goku finished, story over. This is not brawn vs brawn where Goku would perhaps win, this is brawn vs brawn AND brains. Huge brains very accustomed to this kind of fight backed up by muscle that COMBINED is greater than Goku. Its not happening, get over it.

More like they all die instantly before they have a chance to form a thought.

[SSJGodGoku]

@clearspira My friend, you're wasting your time. He's a fanboy like you said.

I'm the fanboy? You're the one saying that your favorite characters equal all of fiction.

And he has a pathological hatred of me because he thinks I'm a DBZ downplayer. Been nagging me to debate despite how I left all the times I was in pain and not doing so well emotionally. He doesn't fucking care. He only cares about defending his pet characters and how they beat EVERYONE in fiction. He's a... very unkind word.

See, there you go again.

@BridgeConsoleMasher We had a debate in another thread, and I was addressing his points, he demanded I use quotes, I said he should be smart enough to figure out what I was talking about, he didn't listen, so I quit the debate.

You were just randomly rambling and I had no idea what you were responding to. How am I supposed to reply if you just write posts that look like:

Okay.

That's true.

That might be true, but maybe not.

I'm not convinced that...

etc. I need to know what parts of my post you are replying to.

He kept insisting I come back to it. I honestly remember very little of that debate, that's how much I stopped caring, but it's clear my views bother this fanboy deeply. So he's just looking to challenge me or insult me. He doesn't care about me. At all. I get the feeling others here have more legit reasons to dislike me, like Madner Kami, than he does. And others like me, despite my flaws. This guy? No. He's just... ugh.

You're the one getting all bent out of shape and making this personal.

[SSJGodGoku]

Yuka, why do you care what he thinks? If he's harassing you, report him and we'll deal with it. (Indeed I've already hit him with a warning for the slur on page 1). Otherwise I don't see a point in getting wound up on this issue.

Oh boy, here come the PC Police. How about this:

Name any Marvel/DC loser and I'll explain how Goku destroys them

.

Is that better?

[SSJGodGoku]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

[clearspira]

Wow, this has escalated since I last looked at this. So, Mr GodGoku, it is obvious by your name that you are a bit of a fanboy lets say. Nothing wrong with that, i've proven that I am to classic Star Trek I expect. But it is blinding you. Especially thanks to teaming up both Marvel and DC you have just teamed up Reed Richards and Batman, two men famous for going up against godlike enemies and wiping the floor with them using their extreme cunning.

Really, what do you think they're going to do? Bulma is smarter than both of them put together and even her technology can't make a difference in DB fights most of the time.

In an in-canon comic, this fight is ending with everyone else holding Goku down

No one could even touch him with Ultra Instinct.

whilst Reed comes in with the ultimate nullifier

The thing that you can't even use without killing yourself?

or a gun that opens the phantom or negative zone, or he will go off and mimic the infinity gems somehow. Goku finished, story over. This is not brawn vs brawn where Goku would perhaps win, this is brawn vs brawn AND brains. Huge brains very accustomed to this kind of fight backed up by muscle that COMBINED is greater than Goku. Its not happening, get over it.

More like they all die instantly before they have a chance to form a thought.

If you think that Bulma is smarter than Reed Richards then you do not know enough about comics to debate this. If you think that Reed Richards would not kill himself to stop a Goku Level threat then you do not know enough about comics to debate this. If you think that Superman backed up by the Avengers, the League, the Green Lantern Corp, the X-Men, and about five different versions of the Hulk could not hold Goku down then you do not know enough about comics to debate this.

Y'know, I don't much give a toss about the outcome of Goku vs Superman, but if you honestly think that the former would walk all over him without breaking a sweat then you really are the worst kind of fanboy.

[Yukaphile]

@clearspira I mean, this is a guy who thinks Goku could probably beat Q.

And that's where this began. In the Goku vs. Superman thread, I believe. I don't hate Goku or Superman, and I really dislike both the Death Battles, and that Ben Singer is planning to create another one, well, God help us all. We all lose no matter who wins. But I do legitimately love both characters, what's not to love?

Also, it depends on what version of Superman, clearspira. What era (Silver Age, Bronze Age, Post-Crisis, Pre-Crisis, New 52?), what storyline, whether it's Superman from Earth-1 or Earth-2 (Kal-El or Kal-L), stuff like that. I do tend to think Goku could beat someone like, say, the Kal-El from Superman: True Brit because, well... he's rather featless. Plus, Japanese shonen hero vs. British superhero? Awesome. If only we could throw the Doctor in.

[SSJGodGoku]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

[SSJGodGoku]

Wow, this has escalated since I last looked at this. So, Mr GodGoku, it is obvious by your name that you are a bit of a fanboy lets say. Nothing wrong with that, i've proven that I am to classic Star Trek I expect. But it is blinding you. Especially thanks to teaming up both Marvel and DC you have just teamed up Reed Richards and Batman, two men famous for going up against godlike enemies and wiping the floor with them using their extreme cunning.

Really, what do you think they're going to do? Bulma is smarter than both of them put together and even her technology can't make a difference in DB fights most of the time.

In an in-canon comic, this fight is ending with everyone else holding Goku down

No one could even touch him with Ultra Instinct.

whilst Reed comes in with the ultimate nullifier

The thing that you can't even use without killing yourself?

or a gun that opens the phantom or negative zone, or he will go off and mimic the infinity gems somehow. Goku finished, story over. This is not brawn vs brawn where Goku would perhaps win, this is brawn vs brawn AND brains. Huge brains very accustomed to this kind of fight backed up by muscle that COMBINED is greater than Goku. Its not happening, get over it.

More like they all die instantly before they have a chance to form a thought.

If you think that Bulma is smarter than Reed Richards then you do not know enough about comics to debate this.

Or maybe I'm right and you're wrong.

If you think that Reed Richards would not kill himself to stop a Goku Level threat then you do not know enough about comics to debate this. If you think that Superman backed up by the Avengers, the League, the Green Lantern Corp, the X-Men, and about five different versions of the Hulk could not hold Goku down then you do not know enough about comics to debate this.

Once again, Ultra Instinct. They wouldn't even be able to touch him.

Y'know, I don't much give a toss about the outcome of Goku vs Superman, but if you honestly think that the former would walk all over him without breaking a sweat then you really are the worst kind of fanboy.

Even Krillin could put Post-Crisis Superman in a body bag back in the Saiyan Saga. MUI Goku is more than a match for all of DC and Marvel combined.

[SSJGodGoku]

@clearspira I mean, this is a guy who thinks Goku could probably beat Q.

You mean the guy who was afraid of Whoopi Goldberg?

And that's where this began. In the Goku vs. Superman thread, I believe. I don't hate Goku or Superman, and I really dislike both the Death Battles, and that Ben Singer is planning to create another one, well, God help us all. We all lose no matter who wins. But I do legitimately love both characters, what's not to love?

Also, it depends on what version of Superman, clearspira. What era (Silver Age, Bronze Age, Post-Crisis, Pre-Crisis, New 52?), what storyline, whether it's Superman from Earth-1 or Earth-2 (Kal-El or Kal-L), stuff like that. I do tend to think Goku could beat someone like, say, the Kal-El from Superman: True Brit because, well... he's rather featless. Plus, Japanese shonen hero vs. British superhero? Awesome. If only we could throw the Doctor in.

You could combine every version together and they would still lose.