Dragon Ball Super vs. DC Comics and Marvel Comics Debate

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

That berserker mode tho.

[Yukaphile]

Q has demonstrated high-tier reality warping Goku could not hope to ever stand a chance against.

Hell, pit the Ellimist against Zeno-sama, and I assure you Zeno-sama would lose.

[clearspira]

Wow, this has escalated since I last looked at this. So, Mr GodGoku, it is obvious by your name that you are a bit of a fanboy lets say. Nothing wrong with that, i've proven that I am to classic Star Trek I expect. But it is blinding you. Especially thanks to teaming up both Marvel and DC you have just teamed up Reed Richards and Batman, two men famous for going up against godlike enemies and wiping the floor with them using their extreme cunning.

Really, what do you think they're going to do? Bulma is smarter than both of them put together and even her technology can't make a difference in DB fights most of the time.

In an in-canon comic, this fight is ending with everyone else holding Goku down

No one could even touch him with Ultra Instinct.

whilst Reed comes in with the ultimate nullifier

The thing that you can't even use without killing yourself?

or a gun that opens the phantom or negative zone, or he will go off and mimic the infinity gems somehow. Goku finished, story over. This is not brawn vs brawn where Goku would perhaps win, this is brawn vs brawn AND brains. Huge brains very accustomed to this kind of fight backed up by muscle that COMBINED is greater than Goku. Its not happening, get over it.

More like they all die instantly before they have a chance to form a thought.

If you think that Bulma is smarter than Reed Richards then you do not know enough about comics to debate this.

Or maybe I'm right and you're wrong.

If you think that Reed Richards would not kill himself to stop a Goku Level threat then you do not know enough about comics to debate this. If you think that Superman backed up by the Avengers, the League, the Green Lantern Corp, the X-Men, and about five different versions of the Hulk could not hold Goku down then you do not know enough about comics to debate this.

Once again, Ultra Instinct. They wouldn't even be able to touch him.

Y'know, I don't much give a toss about the outcome of Goku vs Superman, but if you honestly think that the former would walk all over him without breaking a sweat then you really are the worst kind of fanboy.

Even Krillin could put Post-Crisis Superman in a body bag back in the Saiyan Saga. MUI Goku is more than a match for all of DC and Marvel combined.

Krillin? Krillin?? You know nothing about Superman if you think that. Have you actually read any comic books or is your only knowledge of Superman limited to the Justice League cartoon? Have you even Googled his top-tier forms and what they are capable of? Krillin is nothing compared to Supes and anyone who has read the comics would know that.

I think the time has come to stop playing silly buggers here. I want to know what your comic book experience is. Because unless you are lying, no one who has read a decent amount of Superman or at least researched the subject to a moderate degree can think he would lose to Krillin.

Oh, and I will indulge you. Let's list Bulma's inventions and please add to them if I have missed any out: Dragon radar, if Pilaf and the RR Army can also invent one so can Reed. Shrinking bracelet, Reed's knowledge of Pym particles is second only to Dr Pym himself. Time machine, so has Reed. Capsules, were not actually her invention. Improved Saiyan armour, which is something that Reed could do. Saiyaman watch, something that Reed could do. GT spaceship, Reed has made many.
This is child's stuff to Reed ''I have threatened the multiverse several times from my lab'' Richards. Based on this, I wouldn't put money on her being able to outsmart Tony Stark either. The actual Tony Stark BTW, not film Tony Stark which I have a feeling is all you know.

[Steve]

Yuka, why do you care what he thinks? If he's harassing you, report him and we'll deal with it. (Indeed I've already hit him with a warning for the slur on page 1). Otherwise I don't see a point in getting wound up on this issue.

Oh boy, here come the PC Police. How about this:

Name any Marvel/DC loser and I'll explain how Goku destroys them

.

Is that better?

Well, someone's out to make friends. Although the fact that you felt the need to get snippy about being warned for using a slur kinda shows how you suck at it.

[Steve]

Also, for the rest of you, when will you learn to stop feeding the troll?

[clearspira]

@clearspira I mean, this is a guy who thinks Goku could probably beat Q.

You mean the guy who was afraid of Whoopi Goldberg?

And that's where this began. In the Goku vs. Superman thread, I believe. I don't hate Goku or Superman, and I really dislike both the Death Battles, and that Ben Singer is planning to create another one, well, God help us all. We all lose no matter who wins. But I do legitimately love both characters, what's not to love?

Also, it depends on what version of Superman, clearspira. What era (Silver Age, Bronze Age, Post-Crisis, Pre-Crisis, New 52?), what storyline, whether it's Superman from Earth-1 or Earth-2 (Kal-El or Kal-L), stuff like that. I do tend to think Goku could beat someone like, say, the Kal-El from Superman: True Brit because, well... he's rather featless. Plus, Japanese shonen hero vs. British superhero? Awesome. If only we could throw the Doctor in.

You could combine every version together and they would still lose.

Oh, this just gets better and better. You think that you can combine Cosmic Armor Superman, Superman One Million, Strange Visitor Superman, and Silver Age Superman together and they would not come close to Goku? Oh, sorry, I'm probably using terms that you are not familiar with. Shall I just settle for informing you that CA Superman alone is at a level approaching the Christian God?

[clearspira]

Also, for the rest of you, when will you learn to stop feeding the troll?

I must admit I did not consider that this guy is most likely a troll rather than an idiot. Oh well, I said my bit if he is not. Time to grab the popcorn and watch methinks.

[Yukaphile]

I mean, when I looked up Post-Crisis Superman's best feats, like tanking the collision of New Genesis and Apokolips (which are described as galaxy-sized planets), I was super impressed. I wasn't impressed with Death Battle's interpretation, but I do love Superman, and it's great to see he has legitimate feats in his own right that, even if they can't compare to the Silver Age, are at least quite powerful in their own right. For who beats Superman, I say it depends on the writer. That's always crucial with comic characters.

It was quite cool that in the Silver Surfer/Superman crossover, to see Superman noting Silver Surfer's strength, since I think Surfer is one of those characters who are so haxed, he'd easily blitz.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Yuka, why do you care what he thinks? If he's harassing you, report him and we'll deal with it. (Indeed I've already hit him with a warning for the slur on page 1). Otherwise I don't see a point in getting wound up on this issue.

Oh boy, here come the PC Police. How about this:

Name any Marvel/DC loser and I'll explain how Goku destroys them

.

Is that better?

Well, someone's out to make friends. Although the fact that you felt the need to get snippy about being warned for using a slur kinda shows how you suck at it.

I was kinda taken aback by this as well.

Also though I think I got him stumped with Wolverine's adamantium rage.

[Yukaphile]

Also, he's dead wrong. Q was never scared of Guinan. He simply told Picard that he'd had dealings with her in the past, and she was "a dangerous creature." Shocked he didn't bring up Sisko punching Q.