Dragon Ball Super vs. DC Comics and Marvel Comics Debate

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Also, he's dead wrong. Q was never scared of Guinan. He simply told Picard that he'd had dealings with her in the past, and she was "a dangerous creature." Shocked he didn't bring up Sisko punching Q.

This would be spectacular if this thread was about Star Trek.

[SSJGodGoku]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

That berserker mode tho.

If all you're going to do is spout off irrelevant nonsense, then get out of here, boy.

[SSJGodGoku]

Q has demonstrated high-tier reality warping Goku could not hope to ever stand a chance against.

Hell, pit the Ellimist against Zeno-sama, and I assure you Zeno-sama would lose.

Q's physical body might not be able to be destroyed, but there's nothing stopping Goku from just Hakai-ing him (like he did to Merged Zamasu in the manga, and it would have worked had he not taken Mai as a hostage).

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

That berserker mode tho.

If all you're going to do is spout off irrelevant nonsense, then get out of here, boy.

No he's not a martial artist but his berserker mode heightens his primal instincts greatly. That and he's resilient because of his enhanced healing ability adamantium fused bones.

[SSJGodGoku]

Krillin? Krillin?? You know nothing about Superman if you think that. Have you actually read any comic books or is your only knowledge of Superman limited to the Justice League cartoon? Have you even Googled his top-tier forms and what they are capable of? Krillin is nothing compared to Supes and anyone who has read the comics would know that.

I'm seeing a ton of proof and evidence in your post here.

Oh wait...

I think the time has come to stop playing silly buggers here. I want to know what your comic book experience is. Because unless you are lying, no one who has read a decent amount of Superman or at least researched the subject to a moderate degree can think he would lose to Krillin.

Maybe no one among comic stans and DBZ downplayers. Superman struggled to get to lightspeed in Post-Crisis days but Goku was already faster than that in the 22nd Budokai back in Dragonball when he outran Tien's solar flare. Even during the later Post-Crisis stories when he was at his strongest in that era, Superman got nearly killed by smashing a moon, and Roshi easily busted the moon when he was way weaker than Saiyan Saga Krillin.

Oh, and I will indulge you. Let's list Bulma's inventions and please add to them if I have missed any out: Dragon radar, if Pilaf and the RR Army can also invent one so can Reed.

Prove it then. The Dragonballs are magic and he sucks with magic stuff.

Shrinking bracelet, Reed's knowledge of Pym particles is second only to Dr Pym himself.

So he couldn't invent it by himself and has to steal it from someone else, lol.

Time machine, so has Reed.

Not a time machine that was considered dangerous by the strongest gods in the setting.

Capsules, were not actually her invention. Improved Saiyan armour, which is something that Reed could do.

Prove it. The base armor by itself could tank planetbusters without a scratch. If Reed had armor like that he would use it for his team and they wouldn't get hurt so often.

Saiyaman watch, something that Reed could do.

Prove it. Besides, that was just a trinket for fun.

This is child's stuff to Reed ''I have threatened the multiverse several times from my lab'' Richards. Based on this, I wouldn't put money on her being able to outsmart Tony Stark either. The actual Tony Stark BTW, not film Tony Stark which I have a feeling is all you know.

LOL, you also forgot the universal Dragon Radar (can scan the entire universe for the Super Dragonballs, which not even Shenron could find), a forcefield that can contain SSJ2 Trunks and SSJ3 Goku's power (way beyond any hero in Marvel), the fact that she built a raygun better than Jaco's just from looking at it (and she did this when she was only 3 years old!), the device to induce SSJ4 transformation, reverse engineering the android shutdown controller, etc.

[SSJGodGoku]

Oh, this just gets better and better. You think that you can combine Cosmic Armor Superman

The guy who isn't even using his own power, just a suit. Besides the only reason it worked was because 'Superman's story was better', which means it would lose to any actual creative story like Dragonball.

Superman One Million

The guy who struggled and failed to stop a galaxy when Goku is already beyond multiversal.

Strange Visitor Superman

His best feats don't reach SSJG level.

and Silver Age Superman

Again not even close to SSJG level.

together and they would not come close to Goku? Oh, sorry, I'm probably using terms that you are not familiar with. Shall I just settle for informing you that CA Superman alone is at a level approaching the Christian God?

Kami had the title of God and he was left behind by Goku before DBZ even started.

[SSJGodGoku]

I mean, when I looked up Post-Crisis Superman's best feats, like tanking the collision of New Genesis and Apokolips (which are described as galaxy-sized planets), I was super impressed.

Then you're an idiot. They're not galaxy sized planets, they're normal sized. It's just that when you go to that dimension, you become bigger. So he was scaled up too.

I wasn't impressed with Death Battle's interpretation, but I do love Superman, and it's great to see he has legitimate feats in his own right that, even if they can't compare to the Silver Age, are at least quite powerful in their own right. For who beats Superman, I say it depends on the writer. That's always crucial with comic characters.

This is a versus thread, so that means that the writer here is the person with the best arguments and evidence. And that's me.

It was quite cool that in the Silver Surfer/Superman crossover, to see Superman noting Silver Surfer's strength, since I think Surfer is one of those characters who are so haxed, he'd easily blitz.

That's not even canon, and blitz who? Certainly not anyone above Saiyan Saga level.

[SSJGodGoku]

Also, he's dead wrong. Q was never scared of Guinan. He simply told Picard that he'd had dealings with her in the past, and she was "a dangerous creature." Shocked he didn't bring up Sisko punching Q.

So saying she's dangerous and looking at her like he's scared doesn't mean anything?

And yeah, Sisko (a normal human) punched him out. LMAO.

[SSJGodGoku]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

That berserker mode tho.

If all you're going to do is spout off irrelevant nonsense, then get out of here, boy.

No he's not a martial artist but his berserker mode heightens his primal instincts greatly. That and he's resilient because of his enhanced healing ability adamantium fused bones.

Which is going to do what? He's too slow to ever touch Goku, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to scratch him through his aura. Goku could kill him just by powering up.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Plus it looks like I have him stumped with Wolverine.

The fuck is he going to do? Goku could beat him before he even learned the Kamehameha.

Maybe, but I feel you're discounting his adamantium fused skeletal structure. That and he has enhanced healing ability.

All that would do is let him survive a few punches, meaning he could be a good punching bag. Goku eventually gets tired of smacking him around and blasts him into space.

That berserker mode tho.

If all you're going to do is spout off irrelevant nonsense, then get out of here, boy.

No he's not a martial artist but his berserker mode heightens his primal instincts greatly. That and he's resilient because of his enhanced healing ability adamantium fused bones.

Which is going to do what? He's too slow to ever touch Goku, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to scratch him through his aura. Goku could kill him just by powering up.

I'm sure with adamantium he could. But that's not the worst part. Xavier's controlling him.