Ghostbusters 3?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Count me among the folks that actually liked Ghostbusters 2 -

[Admiral X]

Leslie Jones likens GB3 to Trump Administration

youtu.be/R8IxOGvduG4

[Madner Kami]

And suddenly I feel compelled to actually side with the trolls who slammed Leslie Jones a while ago. What a moron.

[Nessus]

I'm broadly with Clearspira in that I think the only good way to do it at this point would be basically "Ghostbusters: TNG", given the age of the (still living) original cast.

I never got the hate for GB2. Wasn't nearly as good as the first movie, but it was an okay sequel. Not bad, much less terrible, just underwhelming.

I was totally on board with the reboot movie... until the first trailers came out. Had zero problem with the concept, but the writing and the visual design rubbed me the wrong way. When I got around to seeing it, I thought it was surprisingly better than the trailers implied it would be, but still kinda forgettable. I blame this mostly on the film's very... relaxed attitude towards telling a story. It has that same thing that a lot of Michael Bay/Lindeloff/Orci type movies have, where it feels like someone thinks they've "figured out" that the movie doesn't have to have any logical or emotional structure, as long as it's flashy and fast in the right way. Which is odd, considering Feige has well avoided that through the entire MCU. He conspicuously knows better, so the failure here seems conspicuously out of character.

The humor also didn't feel like it was an organic part of the writing: the humor in the original was a lot of wordplay and satire that was interwoven with the plot and characters, whereas the humor in the reboot felt like mostly "hot swappable" gags that sort of sat on the surface without connecting to the underlying parts.

I don't hate it or even dislike it, I just find it forgettable. I think without the whole "controversy" over its casting, it would have come and gone with nary a blip.

In light of that, I wish I could say I'm surprised articles like the one BridgeConsoleMasher linked are still acting like sexism is the sole reason for it's poor public reception/legacy, but I'm not. Despite it now being relatively common knowledge that the whole "anti-female cast backlash" blow up was apparently manufactured by the film's marketing department (SUPER-gross BTW, and kinda made Kevin Feige look like a sociopath to me), playing to that narrative is basically the only thing keeping the film from being forgotten. I feel empathy for the actresses and anyone else involved with the movie but not privvy to the viral marketing "strategy". They probably thought that bruhaha was as real as everyone else did at the time, and as a result that what they'd been a part of was a lot more revolutionary that it was. Having a perceived accomplishment like that melt away underfoot as everyone realized what happened and moved on must legit suck and be a hard pill to swallow.

[G-Man]

Nessus - Kevin Feige is the Marvel guy. Paul Feig (Bridesmaids, A Simple Favor, Spy) is the Ghostbusters (2016) guy.

[Nessus]

Ah, thanks. I guess it was the similarity in names that tripped me up. I do kinda suck at remembering names.

[Zoinksberg]

Jason Reitman on Answer the Call:
"I have so much respect for what Paul created with those brilliant actresses, and would love to see more stories from them. However, this new movie will follow the trajectory of the original film"

Leslie Jones on GB3:
"So insulting. Like fuck us. We dint count. It’s like something trump would do. (Trump voice)”Gonna redo ghostbusteeeeers, better with men, will be huge. Those women ain’t ghostbusteeeeers” ugh so annoying. Such a dick move. And I don’t give fuck I’m saying something!!"

Just a fun little comparison of the maturity level of those involved.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Ghostbusters 2 was pretty darn good, and it contained all the character development that people usually attribute to the first film. I also appreciate that the villain was actually a ghost instead of some sumerian deity.

[clearspira]

Jason Reitman on Answer the Call:
"I have so much respect for what Paul created with those brilliant actresses, and would love to see more stories from them. However, this new movie will follow the trajectory of the original film"

Leslie Jones on GB3:
"So insulting. Like fuck us. We dint count. It’s like something trump would do. (Trump voice)”Gonna redo ghostbusteeeeers, better with men, will be huge. Those women ain’t ghostbusteeeeers” ugh so annoying. Such a dick move. And I don’t give fuck I’m saying something!!"

Just a fun little comparison of the maturity level of those involved.

All she is doing by saying that is proving the anti-feminists right, because judging solely by those two quotes, the ''sexists'' have humility and respect whilst she is frothing at the mouth and blaming everyone else but herself. And correct me if I am wrong, but no one has said that the reboot no longer exists have they? This is continuation of the original universe, someone can still continue her shitty timeline if they want to.

[Darth Wedgius]

All she is doing by saying that is proving the anti-feminists right, because judging solely by those two quotes, the ''sexists'' have humility and respect whilst she is frothing at the mouth and blaming everyone else but herself. And correct me if I am wrong, but no one has said that the reboot no longer exists have they? This is continuation of the original universe, someone can still continue her shitty timeline if they want to.

Yes, the 2016 movie isn't being retconned out any more than the 2016 movie retconned out the original two movies or ruined any childhoods. Reitman even said he looks forward to new works set in the 2016 continuity, but Ghostbusters 3 isn't one of them. Keeping the continuities divided is just maintaining the rules as set by the 2016 movie in the first place.