The great 2020 election thread....

[Yukaphile]

Who are you referring to?

AOC?

[Karha of Honor]

Setting that aside, the wording in that quoted passage is telling.
She says specifically that she still believes anyone advocating for LGBTQ rights is "an extremist", but that she would not impose those views on others due to seeing that in action in Iraq.

In other words "I'd like to oppress queer people, but that would make me like the muslims" Two for one bigotry!

This is not the belief system of someone trustworthy to hold public office, nor someone capable of representing the United States and all its citizens.

Not capable? The US did fine being led by people who were not 2019 progressives.

So you're just...straight-up okay with homophobia? Or are you forgetting that you don't have to be a 2019 progressive to defend queers?

THis phobia or that phobia is a very broad term that is why i very rarely use it relating to ethnic , ideological or sexual identity groups.

[Yukaphile]

Fine then. State oppression against queer people. This is a woman talking like a member of the Nazi leadership - round them into camps and make them wear something to identify them as freaks. She openly says "I'd love to oppress gays." Or do you doubt the accuracy of this claim? If so, then say that. Because again, this is a woman who would clearly pass very strict anti-gay laws. She'd probably try and repeal gay marriage, and the GOP would love to help her. DO YOU SUPPORT THIS?! Answer the question.

[Darth Wedgius]

I ignored that one because he's just trying to play semantics really badly.

The argument is roughly "Huge numbers of our presidents were slave owners/virulent racists/war criminals/homophobes and that never stopped them from being presidents good!"
But of course, I was talking about representing your citizens. And you can't fully and properly represent someone you're bigoted against. How could you.

re: Gabbard- So y'all don't see citing a distinctly-secular majority muslim nation as theocratic as implying, whether cynically or subconsciously, a belief that all of Islam is theocratic?

No. I mentioned ISIS, right? And even if it weren't for that there's just no logical connection there.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

re: Gabbard- So y'all don't see citing a distinctly-secular majority muslim nation as theocratic as implying, whether cynically or subconsciously, a belief that all of Islam is theocratic?

That picture of the quote you cited didn't say anything about Iraq. She said "her time in the middle east," and you stated that she called back to her time in Iraq. She wasn't necessarily talking about Iraq.

[Yukaphile]

Gabbard won't win the nomination. Clinton's voters hate her precisely for this reason, homophobia and Islamophobia. Hell, after Clinton lost, hers was among the names to float up, and I saw them shaking their heads and rejecting her even then. Same with Nina Turner. Susan Sarandon is likewise loathed among the center left Clinton voter bloc.

[Karha of Honor]

Fine then. State oppression against queer people. This is a woman talking like a member of the Nazi leadership - round them into camps and make them wear something to identify them as freaks. She openly says "I'd love to oppress gays." Or do you doubt the accuracy of this claim? If so, then say that. Because again, this is a woman who would clearly pass very strict anti-gay laws. She'd probably try and repeal gay marriage, and the GOP would love to help her. DO YOU SUPPORT THIS?! Answer the question.

From where do you come out with the Nazis exactly?

Based on what was posted in this thread she did not say she wanted to opress gays.

She would pass anti gay laws because...?

[Yukaphile]

... oh wait, seems it's something someone else said... never mind...

[Draco Dracul]

Who are you referring to?

AOC?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Kamala Harris just announced she's running.