Areas where you'd respectfully disagree with Chuck

[Yukaphile]

No, seriously. He thinks she's a tyrant? I think she's just bipolar and slipped through the cracks at Starfleet Command - most likely because of her father, and so the admirals are just looking the other way. It would explain how she rose to the rank of admiral despite all she's done.

[Madner Kami]

What cracks? There are canyons. Remember that people like Troi, Ezri and the people who hand-waved Ezri's lack of experience and education at the whim of the Sisko, are responsible for the psych-evaluation of the personell?

[Yukaphile]

Indeed. I also disagree that Troi is useless. At least in one episode, it's shown her empathic sense helps her be a better counselor - without that, she's lost. She helped this one grieving widow slowly move on from the loss of her husband. So Troi is an average counselor, imo. Not the best. But not the worst - except when she's written that way.

[clearspira]

Can we either stop this thread or get it back on track?

Here's an area I disagree with Chuck. I think Janeway isn't a great supervillain. She's just crazy.

Most of that is what is known as a joke. He doesn't think Wesley touches up his mom in her sleep either.

[sayla0079]

What cracks? There are canyons. Remember that people like Troi, Ezri and the people who hand-waved Ezri's lack of experience and education at the whim of the Sisko, are responsible for the psych-evaluation of the personell?

In fairness with Ezri we never saw her before she was joined so for all we know she might have been an excellent counselor before everything.

[Yukaphile]

He seems to still dislike Wesley, though, and he was fine once Season 3 came around.

[Scififan]

What is up with the whole Harry Kim hate? I mean, sure I get Neelix but why is he described as so useless?

[Yukaphile]

He's weird.

[clearspira]

What is up with the whole Harry Kim hate? I mean, sure I get Neelix but why is he described as so useless?

I don't think useless is the right description, the joke is that Janeway sets him up to fail. The main theme regarding Kim (and a highly accurate one unlike Janeway being a supervillain) is that he is a closet. He is in love with Tom but because he can't have Tom thanks to the latter being firmly heterosexual he keeps going after completely unattainable women or makes excuses not to be with the ones that he can have just so he doesn't have to come out. ''Prime Factors'' is the ultimate example of this, where he has a willing and very attractive woman clearly begging for it and he just shrugs and runs off to talk about the foldspacing teleporter that isn't going anywhere.

[TrueMetis]

What is up with the whole Harry Kim hate? I mean, sure I get Neelix but why is he described as so useless?

I don't think useless is the right description, the joke is that Janeway sets him up to fail. The main theme regarding Kim (and a highly accurate one unlike Janeway being a supervillain) is that he is a closet. He is in love with Tom but because he can't have Tom thanks to the latter being firmly heterosexual he keeps going after completely unattainable women or makes excuses not to be with the ones that he can have just so he doesn't have to come out. ''Prime Factors'' is the ultimate example of this, where he has a willing and very attractive woman clearly begging for it and he just shrugs and runs off to talk about the foldspacing teleporter that isn't going anywhere.

See maybe I'm nuts, but I don't really see any issue with not having a one-night stand with someone you will never see again and instead working on something that might get me home. Like Kim's hardly the only one excited and wants to look into this.

When people say stuff like this all I can think is what is wrong with you? Are you unable to go 15 minutes without masturbating or something? Half of the "proof" Harry Kim is in the closet is "Harry Kim has basic self control and doesn't try and fuck everything that moves, he must be gay!"