Worffan101 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:30 pm
Some people think that being a member of a minority group gives them immunity from criticism (try talking to a black supremacist sometime, or reading the Boston Review, it's annoying as Hell).
You're the one asserting my race.
Unfortunately for Admiral X, his arguments leave only one real conclusion that can be drawn about his noxious politics.
And what would those noxious politics be (this should be interesting...)?
"Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is fast enough."
-TR
Well, tbf, accusing him of being a fake native is... yeah.
"A culture's teachings - and more importantly, the nature of its people - achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves, or find themselves lacking."
— Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:02 pm
Does his racial or national or even economic background count, when evaluating his arguements and talking-points?
No, but that is not hwo the game is played.
On whose behalf do these standards apply? The Democrats, the marxists?
I seen some right wing idiocy like that to be honest. internet.
And what kind of legitimate authority distinguishes them over this broad landscape called the internet?
I was speaking for myself.
It seems like you're saying that the game you mentioned of counting one's racial national or even economic background in evaluating arguments and talking points is something you partake in. At least that's what I get when you talk about right-wing idiocy then commenting later that you speak for yourself.
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:02 pm
Does his racial or national or even economic background count, when evaluating his arguements and talking-points?
No, but that is not hwo the game is played.
On whose behalf do these standards apply? The Democrats, the marxists?
I seen some right wing idiocy like that to be honest. internet.
And what kind of legitimate authority distinguishes them over this broad landscape called the internet?
I was speaking for myself.
It seems like you're saying that the game you mentioned of counting one's racial national or even economic background in evaluating arguments and talking points is something you partake in. At least that's what I get when you talk about right-wing idiocy then commenting later that you speak for yourself.
I'm really not sure where you're going with this.
And how dids you conclude that it seems like it?
I pieced it together from the sequence of half-sentence responses that I'm usually not 100% certain on their meaning.
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:28 am
Well, tbf, accusing him of being a fake native is... yeah.
Given that every other talking-point he's raised is straight out of the alt-right playbook, and he implied that his claim of being a Native American means he can't be alt-right, I feel that in this case it's a valid argument to make.
I'm sick and tired of Slash, Admiral X, and their ilk. Those goddamn alt-right arguments of "It's all teh wimminz and SJWs feminizing men with soybeans!" and similar such bullshit are the #1 reason why it's impossible to have a conversation about any SFF-related topic anymore without it degenerating into pointless dick-waving about whether or not women should be allowed to be in movies and whether or not alt-right slurs are in fact alt-right slurs.
Well, I dunno, maybe it's just me, but lots of right-wingers argue Warren isn't a native either, and I believe she is, so I'll believe he is too. We can't see him, though, so there is that disadvantage. As I've said before, he reminds me of my young friend I talk to on Discord, who is pretty much the same.
"A culture's teachings - and more importantly, the nature of its people - achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves, or find themselves lacking."
— Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:19 am
Well, I dunno, maybe it's just me, but lots of right-wingers argue Warren isn't a native either, and I believe she is, so I'll believe he is too. We can't see him, though, so there is that disadvantage. As I've said before, he reminds me of my young friend I talk to on Discord, who is pretty much the same.
Why should anyone care about your friend here? This not not a Facebook group, what you are saying is meaningless in the context of this forum. Your guilt by association thing does not work. If you wanna label X as something play it in a different way.
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:19 am
Well, I dunno, maybe it's just me, but lots of right-wingers argue Warren isn't a native either, and I believe she is, so I'll believe he is too. We can't see him, though, so there is that disadvantage. As I've said before, he reminds me of my young friend I talk to on Discord, who is pretty much the same.
Why the fuck does you "believing" that Elizabeth Warren is Native American (she isn't, IIRC she has a Native ancestor way back or something, and Twitler made a big hullabaloo about it because Donald Trump is a fucking race-baiting moron) matter here?
My point is that since it's impossible to verify X's ethnic background or tribal membership, he's refused to provide any evidence, and he's spouting the same tired alt-right alternative facts, believing him is like believing Donald Trump when that orange twit claims that his hands are really very large and his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever.