Star Trek Discovery season 2 megathread

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Worffan101 wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:46 pm
technobabbler wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:16 pmOverlord DVD
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HAIL TO YOU ALL! Doomcock is amazed to see how unwisely CBS has allowed all ye who have gathered here the chance to publicly voice your feelings about STD at last. The comments section may not be open long, so I advise everyone to be honest and sincerely voice your opinions, pro or con. I believe CBS may be ready to listen to you now.

CBS, as for MY opinion, Star Trek Discovery is a DISGRACE. It is a perversion of everything Star Trek stood for in the past, and a betrayal of Gene Roddenberry's vision of a bright and optimistic future. This show is not merely bad Trek, it is terrible entertainment, so filled with nonsense and logical lapses it is an insult not merely to viewers, but to human cognition. It is long past time to end this miserable show, get rid of the people making it such a public embarrassment, reunify your company, make Trek whole, disavow this abomination as the work of Q, and start again. There are still fans who care, but you are killing them off as surely as you are killing Star Trek. You are truly running out of time, if indeed any time remains.

Stop this madness. Respect your fans. And restore Star Trek to its former glory.
This is part reasonable criticism ("this is terrible entertainment, full of nonsense and logical lapses and an insult to the viewers"), and part TOS grognard bullshit ("Restore Star Trek to its former glory").

Like, the middle paragraph is harsh, but the first three sentences are legitimate criticism (personal opinion on the show, pointing out what a pointlessly nasty, unenjoyable slog the show is, and then pointing out how it makes no fucking sense), and he does have a good point that fans are becoming alienated.

I dunno, it's overly harsh and kinda juvenile, even by my low standards, but he has some decent points, even if he does like throwing alt-right slurs around on his videos.
Meh. Overly harsh perhaps, but that sums up what I and many others think perfectly.
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I saw episode 3, and it was the best episode of STD so far merely because the script was "weak but functional" rather than "white-hot flaming garbage".

The acting, except for Martin-Green, was fantastic--even the Klingons weren't half bad, and it's a relief to see that Latif has actual talent when he's not doing the tepid romance arc. Mirror Georgiou shows up and...I don't like her character at all but I like michelle Yeoh, so...meh?

The script is weak but not irredeemable. Burnham continues to be a charisma vacuum and the obvious weak link in all this. 10/10 by STD standards, a 5 or 6 at best compared to the rest of Trek.
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More Mirror Universe episodes? OMG... they are blatantly flaunting that... JESUS CHRIST. That takes something special away from Kirk's pioneering moment. Even Enterprise handled the Mirror Universe better. This is just... UGH!
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So does the megathread allow fan theories? aka spoilers only if you're right.

Or should fan theories/predictions be its own thread?
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Fan theories are allowed in the megathread, so is staying on topic. We've been getting reports about this thread from all sides, so this is a general reminder/warning to be civil and keep discussion directly related to Sta Trek Discovery Season 2.
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If I may offer my opinion as to why this thread got derailed: STD is too boring a subject to hold 22 pages of on-topic discussion. And i'm not being sarcastic either. Its simply not a deep show regardless of how much you may or may not enjoy it, its a series of cobbled together action scenes with minimal meaningful character development or meaningful side plots. Once you've exhausted Micheal Burnham, mushrooms, mirror universe, and dodgy continuity; where's left for the megathread to go?

I do apologise for my part in its derailment. It is very hard when you have deeply held views not to attack and defend when you see something come up regarding them, and that is true for us all I think.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:26 am Watching the first episode. Strange how Pike just comes in out of nowhere to take over the ship. I think it'd be pretty neat if it turns out that he's actually from the mirror universe.
Come on, now...

We saw enough of that.
Yukaphile wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:29 pm More Mirror Universe episodes? OMG... they are blatantly flaunting that... JESUS CHRIST. That takes something special away from Kirk's pioneering moment. Even Enterprise handled the Mirror Universe better. This is just... UGH!
The Mirror Universe is so fucking dumb, i fail to see why all this reverence for it.
clearspira wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:54 pm If I may offer my opinion as to why this thread got derailed: STD is too boring a subject to hold 22 pages of on-topic discussion. And i'm not being sarcastic either. Its simply not a deep show regardless of how much you may or may not enjoy it, its a series of cobbled together action scenes with minimal meaningful character development or meaningful side plots. Once you've exhausted Micheal Burnham, mushrooms, mirror universe, and dodgy continuity; where's left for the megathread to go?

I do apologise for my part in its derailment. It is very hard when you have deeply held views not to attack and defend when you see something come up regarding them, and that is true for us all I think.
Chracters change and evolve. We have the Voq thing, the Phillipa in a new role, the Tilly dealing with the alien thing.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:06 pmThe Mirror Universe is so fucking dumb, i fail to see why all this reverence for it.
I'm fond of it. I was pretty excited about it when it was revealed in Discovery. It just made this fitting sense, like the ending to Unbreakable, or learning that Area 51 was just a base for Cold War operations.

Though I'm not sure at the moment why I take to it. TOS was certainly interesting with Kirk and Spock. My first experience with it was in DS9, but that wasn't really anything special. Actually I liked in Enterprise how it showed the Terrans get the Defiant which explains how they're on top of pyramid.
..What mirror universe?
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clearspira wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:54 pm If I may offer my opinion as to why this thread got derailed: STD is too boring a subject to hold 22 pages of on-topic discussion. And i'm not being sarcastic either. Its simply not a deep show regardless of how much you may or may not enjoy it, its a series of cobbled together action scenes with minimal meaningful character development or meaningful side plots. Once you've exhausted Micheal Burnham, mushrooms, mirror universe, and dodgy continuity; where's left for the megathread to go?

I do apologise for my part in its derailment. It is very hard when you have deeply held views not to attack and defend when you see something come up regarding them, and that is true for us all I think.
Although I disagree with you about a lot, I do agree that STD is an incredibly vapid show. Like Voyager but grimderp.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:54 pm If I may offer my opinion as to why this thread got derailed: STD is too boring a subject to hold 22 pages of on-topic discussion.
I thought I was being clever in putting 1 + 1 together (season 2-episode 1's Burnham soliloquy + all roads lead to Burnham in STDisco) and thinking that the "Red Angel" is/will be an ascended Quantum Leap-Scott Bakula-Michael Burnham. Making right what once went wrong.

Nope. apparently that's a common fan theory---tied with Spock = Red Angel. womp womp for me.
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