Just rewatched Indiana Jones and the last Crusade

[Yukaphile]

Where did you get that idea? Religion is a series of beliefs about the afterlife and our place in the world set down thousands of years ago by our ancestors who didn't understand the science of the universe that we do today. They were primitives, and thus that influenced their understanding of the world.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Where did you get that idea? Religion is a series of beliefs about the afterlife and our place in the world set down thousands of years ago by our ancestors who didn't understand the science of the universe that we do today. They were primitives, and thus that influenced their understanding of the world.

Every religion is centered on individuals dealing with the world. The backdrops that have to do with creation of the universe and afterlifes all correspond to how we should operate in our time on Earth.

[Yukaphile]

Anyway, I'm letting this rest.

[Zoinksberg]

or by the same token, send a permanently broken victim who never fully recovered from how badly they were brutalized to hell for a few tiny mistaken beliefs that, in the end, are hurting no one, and don't interfere with how well they treat others.

You behave with evil acts, you deserve to pay, period. And if you don't in this life, then you should in the next life.

I love how in back-to-back posts you first say how terrible it is to consider that some people are judged and damned, and then immediately state that other people need to be judged and damned. Essentially what you are saying is that YOU get to decide what is right and wrong, not other people.

Eternal damnation is a terrible thing, unless Yukaphile thinks you deserve it, then burn heathen!

Anyway, I'm letting this rest.

Ha, I'll take that wager.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

or by the same token, send a permanently broken victim who never fully recovered from how badly they were brutalized to hell for a few tiny mistaken beliefs that, in the end, are hurting no one, and don't interfere with how well they treat others.

You behave with evil acts, you deserve to pay, period. And if you don't in this life, then you should in the next life.

I love how in back-to-back posts you first say how terrible it is to consider that some people are judged and damned, and then immediately state that other people need to be judged and damned. Essentially what you are saying is that YOU get to decide what is right and wrong, not other people.

Eternal damnation is a terrible thing, unless Yukaphile thinks you deserve it, then burn heathen!

Well he's talking about the decision process between the two circumstances. Distracting personification aside, he's ignoring the fact that either way it comes down to a choice of the individual.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Yuka, let me ask you. To what sense does it make to assume the theology aspect of Christianity as truth over any other religion? Like, you're talking about stuff as outlined in The New Testament, but Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism?

[Yukaphile]

One last post.

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Here. Created a new thread specifically for this so not to go off topic.

[Deledrius]

So, remember how Disney made that "Solo" movie to answer questions that nobody ever asked? Like, "Why does Han call Chewbacca Chewie? And where did his blaster come from?"

The first 10 minutes of Last Crusade are a freaking avalanche of that shit, it's so hack. While I love the movie, the young Indy stuff is so bad. Questions that are answered that don't need to be. "Why does Indy hate snakes? Why does he have whip? Where did his hat come from?" I honestly got frustrated by how pandering it was.

I'm sure they thought it was cute to have all of this show up all at once. Watching it, it feels childish and pandering.

I have a love/hate relationship with the opening to Last Crusade. On the one hand, it was the inspiration (and a sort of backdoor pilot) for the television show, which was amazing. Seriously, if you have not watched it and like historical drama and Indiana Jones, you are missing out. On the other definitely-related hand, by front-loading so many of Indy's quirks into this one moment of his life at the start of Last Crusade, they lost the opportunity to introduce them gradually and organically over the course of the show. They still had plenty of other character aspects left that you see him grow into, but I still think it's a shame they took the "one day defined 50% of Indy's iconic attributes" route. It's cute, and appropriately pulpy, but it was a pre-emptive missed opportunity. It was definitely a lot close to Han's last name, a shortcut they generally avoided on the show in favor of a lot more nuance and self-examination.

[CharlesPhipps]

One thing that always irked me about the Indy movies is how, at least until the Crystal Skull, he was fighting Nazis. Yes, Nazis. And then the Soviets. Wow, how subtle.

You forgot the Thuggee.

And what's wrong with a Pulp hero fighting authoritarian dictatorships? I was confused at why there was controversy really.

Are there that many apologists for Stalin?

I haven't seen those movies in years. Wasn't pleased they made the Nazi villain a woman in Last Crusade, but in their defense, she seems to not wanna go as far as the men do. And some people still want to insist German women were criminals. Idiots.

I made a joke that my supervillainy books that the Jewish main character hated Elsa Schneider because she made his 10 year old self attracted to a Nazi.

Mind you, I feel like she was a much more interesting character than Cate Blanchett's who got no characterization and is the weakest of all Indy villains.

[Admiral X]

Especially since he didn't show the kind of hatred against them compared to the Nazis.