I love the part where he says 'nothing allegorical,' I actually laughed because the whole thing is one big allegory and maybe that is why I love it so much. The whole series is basically allegories within allegories.
Still it always annoys me when the writer takes well rounded, likeable characters and makes them do something dumb and despicable for no reason, or for all the wrong reasons. When her fiancee tells her he just wants her to be normal I wanted to kick him right in the junk, at least I would not have blamed her if she did. You could have done the same thing and still have him be sympathetic if he explained that it was because he was afraid what would happen to her, that she could easily get killed and he was trying to save her.
Kino's Journey: Land of Wizards
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Sorry, what I meant to convey is that, taken for what it is, the episode is just really engaging purely as itself, not like others where the allegorical elements are what make the events more meaningful, this is meaningful and beautiful in a purely straightforward manner.phantom000 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:15 pm I love the part where he says 'nothing allegorical,' I actually laughed because the whole thing is one big allegory and maybe that is why I love it so much. The whole series is basically allegories within allegories.
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Re: Kino's Journey: Land of Wizards
Kinda feels weird to have her embrace her arranged marriage fiancé at the end, after he lead the charge to destroy her life's work.
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Gotta agree with Chuck on the point of comparing Nimya to Asami from TLOK, and much like Asami Nimya seems to be something of a fan favorite for Kino fans and more often then not, much like Korra and Asami is often regarded as the characters that most fans want Kino to end up with romantically. I think what works about these two characters is that they're such nice people who just have the Worst Luck and we do see the pressure getting to them to the point that their come close to just giving up.
I think that's what makes the respective women's relationships with the series leads all the more impactful as they are also someone who the universe seems to hate and yet they still do what they can to help this person our. With Kino it's because she saw that Nimya's idea could work and that she should have a chance to see it come close. With Korra Asami has always been there for her and she does everything she can to return the favor and as a result the two form a strong bond, stronger then they have with anyone else.
The only difference is that Asami seems to end up with the twat who made her life miserable and nearly ruined everything she worked for where as Asami ended up with someone who genuinely loves and respects her.
I think what makes Asami and Nimya such fan favorites is that they are honestly good people who are also badasses and yet are still vulnerable people who are allowed to have moments of weakness and seem to almost never catch a break. So when something does Finally go their way it feels rewarding for both them and the viewer who wanted to see them get their happy ending.
I think this is why I don't much care for characters like Mako from Korra's first two seasons and Rey in Star Wars. Seem just seem to go their way to often and when they want something they don't really seem to earn it. Rey wants a family, to get off Jakku and to be someone special, all she has to do is wait around and she'll get it without any real strings attached. Mako wants to money to enter into the Pro-Bending Tournament, to get a beautiful girlfriend and then another and to be seen as a great detective, same as Rey all he has to do is wait around and he'll get it (at least as far as the first two seasons go).
But Asami and Nimya, if they want something they have to fight to get it and often seems that the universe itself is out to ruin their lives. We like characters who have to fight for everything they want and sometimes they don't always get it and when they do it's often after they have suffered more physically and emotionally a great deal to get it.
I think that's what makes the respective women's relationships with the series leads all the more impactful as they are also someone who the universe seems to hate and yet they still do what they can to help this person our. With Kino it's because she saw that Nimya's idea could work and that she should have a chance to see it come close. With Korra Asami has always been there for her and she does everything she can to return the favor and as a result the two form a strong bond, stronger then they have with anyone else.
The only difference is that Asami seems to end up with the twat who made her life miserable and nearly ruined everything she worked for where as Asami ended up with someone who genuinely loves and respects her.
I think what makes Asami and Nimya such fan favorites is that they are honestly good people who are also badasses and yet are still vulnerable people who are allowed to have moments of weakness and seem to almost never catch a break. So when something does Finally go their way it feels rewarding for both them and the viewer who wanted to see them get their happy ending.
I think this is why I don't much care for characters like Mako from Korra's first two seasons and Rey in Star Wars. Seem just seem to go their way to often and when they want something they don't really seem to earn it. Rey wants a family, to get off Jakku and to be someone special, all she has to do is wait around and she'll get it without any real strings attached. Mako wants to money to enter into the Pro-Bending Tournament, to get a beautiful girlfriend and then another and to be seen as a great detective, same as Rey all he has to do is wait around and he'll get it (at least as far as the first two seasons go).
But Asami and Nimya, if they want something they have to fight to get it and often seems that the universe itself is out to ruin their lives. We like characters who have to fight for everything they want and sometimes they don't always get it and when they do it's often after they have suffered more physically and emotionally a great deal to get it.
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That girl there... It has been long road, getting from there to here, been a long time trying to find her way. But she can feel the change in the wind right now, and they are not going to hold her down no more, no they are not going to hold her down. She's got faith of....some kind of internal organ, a kidney perhaps. Faith of the kidney, yes.
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Now I really would have liked for Chuck to have made this joke, it would have been the perfect review.CrypticMirror wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:21 am That girl there... It has been long road, getting from there to here, been a long time trying to find her way. But she can feel the change in the wind right now, and they are not going to hold her down no more, no they are not going to hold her down. She's got faith of....some kind of internal organ, a kidney perhaps. Faith of the kidney, yes.