Star Trek Discovery season 2 megathread

[technobabbler]

where's Voq's other cock?

...never underestimate religious (or any other form of) fundamentalism.

what's losing your spare penis versus showing Kahless the extent of your devotion/your after-life reward.

[clearspira]

Just watched through 'Point of Light' and 'Oboe for Karen' again (friends were catching up), and the Klingon material reminded me of a question that's been nagging at me all this time: where's Voq's other cock? It is like dead bodies in 'Heart of Glory', they got to that bit of the operation and were just "Not usin' it anymore, chuck it away"? (Does L'Rell still have it for Executive Time?) They made such a point in season one of establishing the nature of Klingon junk, I feel like I need some closure here.

Is that still a thing? I mean... it was established in TNG that Klingons have back ups for everything so its not beyond being canon... but I maintain to this day that something like that absolutely would have been mentioned by Jadzia, Ezri, or one of the other one-dimensional sex mad Klingon women.
I am thinking about this way to hard but what I also want to know is, how many balls must they realistically have if they have two penises? You would think that ''go for his quadruple testicles'' would be the first move in literally every fight given how hard they would be to miss.

[Zoinksberg]

I doubt they are going to try retconning that like they did with the hair or holograms.

"Hey, remember that disfigured guy we saw urinating in the Orion district? He's finally getting treated for his extra 'appendage' thanks to L'Rell's new health care program. Hopefully they can help me get my ridges back, as well as all those augments that we aren't going to see but I want to make sure I reference right now."

So it's still a thing insofar as they won't bother undoing it. Whether you want to believe it never happened or not, unlike a lot of things it probably won't come up again. I'm not even sure if I intended the pun or not, I'm too annoyed that this conversation even has to happen to care about penis puns.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Is that still a thing? I mean... it was established in TNG that Klingons have back ups for everything so its not beyond being canon... but I maintain to this day that something like that absolutely would have been mentioned by Jadzia, Ezri, or one of the other one-dimensional sex mad Klingon women.

I don't know that the omission is really telling - Trek's traditionally been pretty prudish about sex, outside of that one discussion between Riker and the J'naii pilot the only times I can off the top of my head think of sexual anatomy even being mentioned have been the occasional juvenile jokes (I want to note that the guy with the knee gets a pass, because that was genuinely funny). And given 24th Century folks' (supposedly) enlightened attitudes, I don't really see a reason Worf's Towers of Qo'noS would've had to have come up in conversation; certainly it's just another day of the week for Jadzia, and Betazeds were supposedly all sexually liberated as well, so I imagine Deanna was very au fait about it. (Given how docile her on-duty demeanour generally was, and how Worf seemed to have a bit of a 'nobody can handle Klingons' idea early on, I love imagining his face when they got back to her quarters after a date, he's taking a deep breath and getting ready to give the 'tell me if anything about me makes you uncomfortable' speech, and she just slaps her butt and says "So how do you want to do this, consecutively or concurrently?")

I am thinking about this way to hard but what I also want to know is, how many balls must they realistically have if they have two penises? You would think that ''go for his quadruple testicles'' would be the first move in literally every fight given how hard they would be to miss.

As tempting as it is to assume they've got a quad (I miss Mass Effect) I don't know that it's necessary to satisfy what we know; technically we've got a redundant one already, so if Klingons were to have just two it wouldn't be a glaring omission from their biology. Also I like to preserve canon wherever possible, and this'd let us keep Chuck's 'courage and honour' names for them without having to think up more. As for protection, obviously the first thought is a little set of armoured ridges on their sack, but I feel the more likely option is that they're internal, like with Scarrans. (Alien genitals, AMA.)

I'm too annoyed that this conversation even has to happen to care about penis puns.

C'mon, when have Trekkies ever decided not to obsess about minutiae? (Although Worf'd probably prefer we didn't use that particular word.)

[Zoinksberg]

C'mon, when have Trekkies ever decided not to obsess about minutiae? (Although Worf'd probably prefer we didn't use that particular word.)

First: hehe, 'minutiae'

It's not about people obsessing over it. It's about whoever decided to include this stupid gag shot in to the show. This was a carefully planned and crafted shot. There were practical effects, actors in makeup, and careful camera work to get the angles right. All for a pretty stupid sight gag. Pissing jokes in Trek have gone from "I'm not detecting any leak" to "hey, look at these two streams of piss coming from this alien, that's so weird!" Ok, I might be overreacting on that slightly, though I stand my ground. Come to think of it, is that the first official appearance of urine in Star Trek? Aim high Discovery.

But the worse part is that they didn't think past the "hey, this would be kind of funny" thought. Any writer that has a clue about Trekkies would know that the scene would be important and considered canon on Klingon physiology. Of course we are obsessing over it, anybody even remotely familiar with the fan base would have recognized that and maybe decided not to put it in there. The best case is that someone knew the TNG plot point about redundancy in Klingons. More likely, IMO, is that they just thought it would be cool. That seems to be the reasoning behind most decisions in Season 1.

[Yukaphile]

It's amazing to me that the people who like STD can't see how this is clearly pissing all over the franchise like the very pee these Klingons are urinating in great golden showers... it is gold, right?

[Fianna]

I'd note that two urine streams doesn't necessarily mean two penises. Could just be two urethra positioned on the sides of a single penis.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Plausible, but unlikely.

[Makeshift Python]

Likely just a two headed penis, like how echidnas have four headed penises.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Knuckles is an echidna.