NY finally convicts a white supremacist as a Terrorist

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Re: NY finally convicts a white supremacist as a Terrorist

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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:26 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:31 am Darth can you tell me that if some bearded brown man shot up a church saying he was opening a Jihad he wouldn't be a terrorist in every newspaper and DA office?
It wouldn't surprise me, but that is different from being convicted as a terrorist, and lately jihad has been used to mean terrorism anyway.
How is being tried by the DA office as a terrorist different from being convicted as a terrorist?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:50 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:26 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:31 am Darth can you tell me that if some bearded brown man shot up a church saying he was opening a Jihad he wouldn't be a terrorist in every newspaper and DA office?
It wouldn't surprise me, but that is different from being convicted as a terrorist, and lately jihad has been used to mean terrorism anyway.
How is being tried by the DA office as a terrorist different from being convicted as a terrorist?
Not all those called as something in a DA office are charged as such, not all those charged with a crime are are convicted, and I think not all those charged with a crime and convicted of a crime are convicted as charged.
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Re: NY finally convicts a white supremacist as a Terrorist

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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:01 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:50 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:26 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:31 am Darth can you tell me that if some bearded brown man shot up a church saying he was opening a Jihad he wouldn't be a terrorist in every newspaper and DA office?
It wouldn't surprise me, but that is different from being convicted as a terrorist, and lately jihad has been used to mean terrorism anyway.
How is being tried by the DA office as a terrorist different from being convicted as a terrorist?
Not all those called as something in a DA office are charged as such, not all those charged with a crime are are convicted, and I think not all those charged with a crime and convicted of a crime are convicted as charged.
Someone's seen quite a bit of the Law and Order intro here.

To be fair, I think Necro's hypothetical was bridging the general nomenclature circulating in the DA's office with a judge slamming a gavel and saying guilty.
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Re: NY finally convicts a white supremacist as a Terrorist

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Nealithi wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:28 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:08 am
Nealithi wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:49 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:17 am Why is a Muslim stabber in my home town called a terrorist, but a white guy who goes in to shoot a bunch of black churchgoers who was radicalized by right-wing hate news not called a terrorist either? The intent is the damn same.
Media mislabeling things to sell copy?

General societal misinformation that muslims are all foreign?

The Asari want to confuse you?

Too many options to choose from as to why. Though if it is the same church shooter I heard of. It was less to intimidate civilians as to test pledge to a cause. So the group might be terrible. But the individual's goal was not in the definition of terrorism since he did not care about fear. Just showing he could pull a trigger.
I never heard of a Muslim stabber. But if he was trying to sow fear then the label could apply.
And how school shooters. Not trying for fear, though they are definitely causing it. But that is not the intent. So not terrorists. Sorry if that meandered a bit.
He talked about an impending Racial Holy War. How is that not terrorism?
That does not sound like the one I heard of. Which saddens me. Because how many church shootings are there now a days?
Yeah, that is a pretty depressing observation. =/

The one I am referring to is the shooting at the Charleston AME Church. Is that the one you had in mind?
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