Jussie Smollett attacked with bleach and noose

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Re: Jussie Smollett attacked with bleach and noose

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Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:26 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:57 pm Hardy har, but really though there is conscientious attitude towards nonprogressive people that belong to otherwise identity groups that have the progressive's eyes for concern.
What would those "otherwise identity groups" be?
Ok, so this is at least a little peculiar avenue where identity politics breaks down, at least as far as light attitudes (you might expect online say) concerning ethnicity and Trump. The first thing coming to mind was two Puerto Ricans who also happen to be homosexual (I think, I could be mistaken) that were berating an African American uber driver, anchoring his car down by refusing to get out while they were on the phone with the police claiming that he was harassing them for not changing the music or something and eventually terminating their ride. Among the verbal cascade of obscenities I'm pretty sure racial slurs and proclamation of Trump's America were accounted for. If true then it's downright shocking I know.

So do progressives just kinda have nothing to say about it due to identity politics? Of course not. I'm pretty sure this got to my attention from George Takei's Facebook feed which tends to transmit pretty juicy instances like this, or maybe not so juicy but nonetheless also accompanied by the viral and vitriolic reactions to them. George is all about progressivism, and eventually I did remember noticing that his page would post more and more stuff that kinda grayed out the identity politics moniquer.

It's just that you don't really have to conflate the white supremacy attitudes of the alt-right with the instance noted above. Anything I possibly misrepresented in that account, this at least you can come away with for understanding reactions to Trump on both sides.
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So did he actually get bleach poured on him or not? o_o
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:15 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:26 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:57 pm Hardy har, but really though there is conscientious attitude towards nonprogressive people that belong to otherwise identity groups that have the progressive's eyes for concern.
What would those "otherwise identity groups" be?
Ok, so this is at least a little peculiar avenue where identity politics breaks down, at least as far as light attitudes (you might expect online say) concerning ethnicity and Trump. The first thing coming to mind was two Puerto Ricans who also happen to be homosexual (I think, I could be mistaken) that were berating an African American uber driver, anchoring his car down by refusing to get out while they were on the phone with the police claiming that he was harassing them for not changing the music or something and eventually terminating their ride. Among the verbal cascade of obscenities I'm pretty sure racial slurs and proclamation of Trump's America were accounted for. If true then it's downright shocking I know.

So do progressives just kinda have nothing to say about it due to identity politics? Of course not. I'm pretty sure this got to my attention from George Takei's Facebook feed which tends to transmit pretty juicy instances like this, or maybe not so juicy but nonetheless also accompanied by the viral and vitriolic reactions to them. George is all about progressivism, and eventually I did remember noticing that his page would post more and more stuff that kinda grayed out the identity politics moniquer.

It's just that you don't really have to conflate the white supremacy attitudes of the alt-right with the instance noted above. Anything I possibly misrepresented in that account, this at least you can come away with for understanding reactions to Trump on both sides.
I just wanted a definition for "identity groups."
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:12 pm So did he actually get bleach poured on him or not? o_o
The police took bleach from the suspects, so I'd guess they want samples to compare to some evidence. So my take on that would be a qualified yes.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:38 pm I just wanted a definition for "identity groups."
Well I thought the grouped term would be familiar at least between us as we have discussed identity politics as a topic.
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:39 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:12 pm So did he actually get bleach poured on him or not? o_o
The police took bleach from the suspects, so I'd guess they want samples to compare to some evidence. So my take on that would be a qualified yes.
They found like 3 large containers in their home or something. Which does sound kinda weird for Smollett staging the whole thing. Like, "make sure you have a crap ton of this stuff in case we mess up the first time," or "if you have an abundance of anything around your home that you can use for a somewhat physically harmless but also obscenely staining assault, then maybe consider using that."
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:38 pm I just wanted a definition for "identity groups."
Well I thought the grouped term would be familiar at least between us as we have discussed identity politics as a topic.

I want to make sure I'm not making assumptions. We are talking pretty much anyone not straight cisgendered white men, right?
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Well the police have now stated it's categorically not a hoax so I trust them at their word.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:42 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:38 pm I just wanted a definition for "identity groups."
Well I thought the grouped term would be familiar at least between us as we have discussed identity politics as a topic.

I want to make sure I'm not making assumptions. We are talking pretty much anyone not straight cisgendered white men, right?
Hell yeah we are!
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:08 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:42 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:38 pm I just wanted a definition for "identity groups."
Well I thought the grouped term would be familiar at least between us as we have discussed identity politics as a topic.

I want to make sure I'm not making assumptions. We are talking pretty much anyone not straight cisgendered white men, right?
Hell yeah we are!
That's fine. I just wanted to get past that silly "liberals treat everyone the same without regard to race, sex, or sexual orientation" nonsense. Thanks!
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:02 pm Well the police have now stated it's categorically not a hoax so I trust them at their word.
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