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Admiral X wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:16 am My philosophy:
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The concept of the virtual Hells' from The Culture series is a real thing that people who follow metahuman development are worried about, the idea that one day governments may decide to imprison people even in death before they can be downloaded into a new body. Seems fanciful I know, but, the ability to download (upload? I always forget which) your mind into a computer will probably come.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:18 am The concept of the virtual Hells' from The Culture series is a real thing that people who follow metahuman development are worried about, the idea that one day governments may decide to imprison people even in death before they can be downloaded into a new body. Seems fanciful I know, but, the ability to download (upload? I always forget which) your mind into a computer will probably come.
I think consciousness is more hardware based.
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I find it highly unlikely, that the true >You< can be transfered into a computer (or can be transported by a transporter, for that matter). >You< will remain stuck in that body of yours. Whatever lives in the computer, once "you" were transfered, is a copy, a clone of yours. A man of it's own, who shares your memories, but has otherwise nothing in common with you.
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I mean I thought at one point I had learned that Star Trek transporters operated on a trans dimensional basis averting that issue, but despite what we were told in the Barclay transporter phobia episode they do actually tear all your molecules apart and put them back together. Maybe not replicating lol but eww.

Like what if every single person that used a transporter in Trek was another copy of a person and you died each time you used one, and nobody was ever able to confirm otherwise?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:39 pm Like what if every single person that used a transporter in Trek was another copy of a person and you died each time you used one, and nobody was ever able to confirm otherwise?
That we got split characters (evil goatee Riker) strongly suggests that's the case.
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Beastro wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:57 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:40 am Have you looked into Buddhism at all? I'm pretty sure they lack the idea of eternal suffering, just a sorta sentencing period in one of the bad realms.
Wut

To Buddhists life is eternal suffering. That is the entire reason for trying to break free from it.
Not Eternal though, which is the point. That life is where suffering happens, and you're trying to escape from it.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:03 am If I may interject? It's less about "HOW IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME?!" and more, "Just... why can't we have a fair world, even in death?"
It's a Fallen world.

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I don't believe in eternal damnation but I believe that damnation is often the result of being evil itself.
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