Quark also tried to pull some identity theft on Kira in "Meridian" for pornography purposes for a man who was sexually interested in her. You may not get this, but Quark's idea of advertisements and everyone else's might differ in that everyone else has a sense of privacy, and seemingly, a legal right to their own person. I'm not sure if he would have had something fun to display, or if it would have been nude holograms of Kira and Dax on the promenade if he thought he could get away with it to entice customers.Yukaphile wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:41 pm Well, there was Kira and Sisko's actions in "The Jem'Hadar" and "Playing God."
Yeah, Quark broke the law to sell ads on the station monitors - because Sisko won't let him do so normally. He gives no reason that's satisfactory, at least in the episode where he turned him down. There's nothing horrible about ads, except maybe in that it violates the Federation's sense of moral outrage when it comes to all things money-related.
There's also the fact that Quark wasn't just putting that catchy jingle on the promenade, it was violating people's homes. You're advocating for Quark having the right to intrude on every part of every person who lives on the station's life when they do anything electronic, because the Captain said he couldn't. Again, I point to the idea that you're at home, you try and read a book on your kindle, and all of a sudden you hear a jingle from it everytime you turn a page. Or every time you turn on the sink for a glass of water. Or every time you open or close a door. Or every time you get in an elevator. That's the level Quark finds acceptable as advertisements.
Whatever reason Sisko said no to Quark is immaterial, that doesn't give Quark license to disregard the law, and the personal lives of others for his own benefit.
Here's the thing. Quark doesn't take no for an answer. And breaking into people's homes via pirate broadcast, or stealing their identity for a quick buck is not some moral outrage when it comes to money, it's Quark not valuing others in the pursuit of his own profits.
It's a little hard to feel sorry for Quark as a poor beleagued businessman when he constantly abuses people's rights for a quick buck.
That seems to be the tack people are taking for Quark in this thread. That due to his financial difficulties for dealing with the Federation, the Federation owes him one. This is despite the fact that the Federation and members of Starfleet have done a lot to help him over the years, and he abuses that generosity, and their trust, if he can. We already have him, from this thread alone, for privacy invasion, pirate broadcasting, identity theft, tampering, if not sabotage of station systems, and other things that would be viewed as worth serious jail time in the present day United States.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:44 pm That's just about as nebulous as 2nd amendment implications. I have to admit that I'm not the most familiar with the show here, but I've never gotten the impression in the show or especially the episode that Quark is some hard-on-his-luck victim of circumstance that the federation is obliged to take considerable sympathy upon. I haven't gotten that impression much about the federation itself.
And people in this thread spin it as, "Oh, that plucky Quark, he's just trying to earn some latinum in tough circumstances."
When, if we really evaluate it, Sisko is correct, he's been VERY lenient on Quark over the years, even looked the other way once or twice. But going from lecherous guy who steals people's identities and sells holographic hookers to guy who sells guns on the street corner, yeah, the law can't look the other way on that one.
