Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:04 am
Admiral X wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:36 am
Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:29 am Interesting. How do you feel about affirmative action?
I find it to be discriminatory. And I've directly benefited from it, incidentally.
Story behind this?
I'm a registered member of a Federally recognized Native American tribe, and that's all the more detail I'm going to go into.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am Until our society stops treating Caucasian as the "standard", whether consciously or unconsciously, it's a necessity. Kind of like black history month, which was implemented for reasons of the same nature. Ideally we shouldn't have such programs, but it's needed for now.
You've simply made excuses to justify discrimination which works in direct contradiction of the ideal of an egalitarian meritocracy. Not only are you screwing some people based on things like race or sex, but you're actually condescending to the people you're claiming to help out, too.

Things like black history month are another matter. While I kind of roll my eyes because of the virtue signalling that tends to go along with it, setting aside some time to focus on a particular aspect of history is just fine. Be nice if they did that for Natives. Only issue there is if you harp on it too much you're just going to turn people off to it, because no one likes being preached to.
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Sir Will wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:26 am
clearspira wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:57 am
Sir Will wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:24 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:18 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:22 am
clearspira wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:18 am
To a much lesser extent, she also came and and said that she wants people to donate tickets for ''underprivileged'' girls to go and see the film. Which 1) Annoyed people because, y'know, there are ''underprivileged'' boys that can't see the film either
Annoyed "people"? Either source these people or admit you are the one who is annoyed, coward.
1) Can the potty mouth. It says more about your mentality than it does about mine, son.
2) Go onto Youtube and find one of the many high level creators that are talking about it and have comment sections full of agreeing voices. I'll give you one to start your journey with: ComicArtistProSecrets. 107 K subs. You're welcome.
Yeah I've seen that corner of YouTube. I also don't care what those babies think. And yes I think them babies if they're getting upset at that. Again I ask you: Black Panther? Were you up in arms then too?
1) Whether you care or not is irrelevant. You asked who ''they'' are. I gave you 107K of them.
2) Why are you bringing up Black Panther? Do you think that these two films are comparable? :lol:
1) I wasn't the one who asked. Do note who you're replying to.
2) You think Black Panther had no political promotion behind it? And did you miss all of the people and organizations arranging for screenings for black kids? How is that not comparable? Because you don't like Brie Larson?
I'll tell you how its not comparable. Because films that have all black casts and that aren't comedies are still extremely rare. If representation in media is something you care about, Black Panther was an important film.
Films that have female leads or all female casts are common as bread. There is nothing special about a female lead film in 2019 and what's more there is nothing special about strong women since the 1990s either. You are trying pass off two completely different things as one and the same.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am
Admiral X wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:36 am
Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:29 am Interesting. How do you feel about affirmative action?
I find it to be discriminatory. And I've directly benefited from it, incidentally.
Until our society stops treating Caucasian as the "standard", whether consciously or unconsciously, it's a necessity. Kind of like black history month, which was implemented for reasons of the same nature. Ideally we shouldn't have such programs, but it's needed for now.
How much affirmative action do we need for Asians?
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Admiral X wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:03 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am Until our society stops treating Caucasian as the "standard", whether consciously or unconsciously, it's a necessity. Kind of like black history month, which was implemented for reasons of the same nature. Ideally we shouldn't have such programs, but it's needed for now.
You've simply made excuses to justify discrimination which works in direct contradiction of the ideal of an egalitarian meritocracy. Not only are you screwing some people based on things like race or sex, but you're actually condescending to the people you're claiming to help out, too.

Things like black history month are another matter. While I kind of roll my eyes because of the virtue signalling that tends to go along with it, setting aside some time to focus on a particular aspect of history is just fine. Be nice if they did that for Natives. Only issue there is if you harp on it too much you're just going to turn people off to it, because no one likes being preached to.
That’s why I said ideally we should not have such programs, yet we’re not living in an ideal society. I would say affirmative action is helpful in that it gives minorities a better chance at recognition otherwise they would have been neglected in favor of the “standard” that is Caucasian which has a higher privilege. Of course if you don’t believe in “white privilege” then I can see why that’s an issue.

Or I’m just plain old discriminating and that makes me a terrible person because context doesn’t matter.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:47 pm
Admiral X wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:03 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am Until our society stops treating Caucasian as the "standard", whether consciously or unconsciously, it's a necessity. Kind of like black history month, which was implemented for reasons of the same nature. Ideally we shouldn't have such programs, but it's needed for now.
You've simply made excuses to justify discrimination which works in direct contradiction of the ideal of an egalitarian meritocracy. Not only are you screwing some people based on things like race or sex, but you're actually condescending to the people you're claiming to help out, too.

Things like black history month are another matter. While I kind of roll my eyes because of the virtue signalling that tends to go along with it, setting aside some time to focus on a particular aspect of history is just fine. Be nice if they did that for Natives. Only issue there is if you harp on it too much you're just going to turn people off to it, because no one likes being preached to.
That’s why I said ideally we should not have such programs, yet we’re not living in an ideal society. I would say affirmative action is helpful in that it gives minorities a better chance at recognition otherwise they would have been neglected in favor of the “standard” that is Caucasian which has a higher privilege. Of course if you don’t believe in “white privilege” then I can see why that’s an issue.

Or I’m just plain old discriminating and that makes me a terrible person because context doesn’t matter.
Yawn. I wonder when God is going to bless me with all of this ''privilege'' that my penis and melanin count is meant to be giving me.

*Checks bank balance* Nope.
Oh, well. I'll keep waiting patiently I guess.
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clearspira wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:36 pm Yawn. I wonder when God is going to bless me with all of this ''privilege'' that my penis and melanin count is meant to be giving me.

*Checks bank balance* Nope.
Oh, well. I'll keep waiting patiently I guess.
But that's not how white privilege works!
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:05 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:36 pm Yawn. I wonder when God is going to bless me with all of this ''privilege'' that my penis and melanin count is meant to be giving me.

*Checks bank balance* Nope.
Oh, well. I'll keep waiting patiently I guess.
But that's not how white privilege works!
And yet, I keep waiting.
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Ignorance certainly helps it.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:17 pm Ignorance certainly helps it.
Well anything that might be considered ignorance would be a product of it if anything. A lot of the time it involves something that doesn't happen to the beneficiary.
..What mirror universe?
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