So, the annoyed people you are invoking is the same youtube comment section rabble whose openly hateful tirades you dismiss as irrelevant to your side?clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:18 pm1) Can the potty mouth. It says more about your mentality than it does about mine, son.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:22 amAnnoyed "people"? Either source these people or admit you are the one who is annoyed, coward.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:18 am
To a much lesser extent, she also came and and said that she wants people to donate tickets for ''underprivileged'' girls to go and see the film. Which 1) Annoyed people because, y'know, there are ''underprivileged'' boys that can't see the film either
2) Go onto Youtube and find one of the many high level creators that are talking about it and have comment sections full of agreeing voices. I'll give you one to start your journey with: ComicArtistProSecrets. 107 K subs. You're welcome.
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"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
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Non-comedy films with all-black casts are pretty rare, I'll give you that, but I question your assertion that female lead films and strong women characters are being tossed out like hard candy at a shriner's parade. Just looking at the microcosm of the Marvel Cinematic Universe alone, it took us a long time to get a female-led marvel movie and Avengers started off with a mere token woman.clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:16 pmI'll tell you how its not comparable. Because films that have all black casts and that aren't comedies are still extremely rare. If representation in media is something you care about, Black Panther was an important film.Sir Will wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:26 am1) I wasn't the one who asked. Do note who you're replying to.clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:57 am1) Whether you care or not is irrelevant. You asked who ''they'' are. I gave you 107K of them.Sir Will wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:24 pmYeah I've seen that corner of YouTube. I also don't care what those babies think. And yes I think them babies if they're getting upset at that. Again I ask you: Black Panther? Were you up in arms then too?clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:18 pm1) Can the potty mouth. It says more about your mentality than it does about mine, son.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:22 amAnnoyed "people"? Either source these people or admit you are the one who is annoyed, coward.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:18 am
To a much lesser extent, she also came and and said that she wants people to donate tickets for ''underprivileged'' girls to go and see the film. Which 1) Annoyed people because, y'know, there are ''underprivileged'' boys that can't see the film either
2) Go onto Youtube and find one of the many high level creators that are talking about it and have comment sections full of agreeing voices. I'll give you one to start your journey with: ComicArtistProSecrets. 107 K subs. You're welcome.
2) Why are you bringing up Black Panther? Do you think that these two films are comparable?
2) You think Black Panther had no political promotion behind it? And did you miss all of the people and organizations arranging for screenings for black kids? How is that not comparable? Because you don't like Brie Larson?
Films that have female leads or all female casts are common as bread. There is nothing special about a female lead film in 2019 and what's more there is nothing special about strong women since the 1990s either. You are trying pass off two completely different things as one and the same.
Look at the Superhero Genre in a larger context. How many Batman and Superman reboots did we get before a single wonder woman movie? The female-lead superhero films was largely relegated to best-forgotten embarrassments like Elektra and Catwoman.
Taking a very quick and informal look at the Now Playing section of my nearest Regal Theater, I got a 5 to 3 male-to-female ratio with the leads, with a one-in-either-direction for uncertainty with The Prodigy as it's not clear enough from the material whether the lead would be the son or the mother.
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In a sense perhaps there’s no such thing as white privilege. But perhaps there’s black privilege, as they tend to get the most attention out of authorities for the most menial things like walking down the street. Quite a privilege!BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:22 pmWell anything that might be considered ignorance would be a product of it if anything. A lot of the time it involves something that doesn't happen to the beneficiary.
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Seriously. Ignorance may be bliss but it's annoying as hell for other people.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:05 pmBut that's not how white privilege works!clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:36 pm Yawn. I wonder when God is going to bless me with all of this ''privilege'' that my penis and melanin count is meant to be giving me.
*Checks bank balance* Nope.
Oh, well. I'll keep waiting patiently I guess.
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Well no, it's a burden. For all intensive purposes, what white privilege describes as it applies broadly across the whole population is burden more than privilege.Makeshift Python wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:02 pmIn a sense perhaps there’s no such thing as white privilege. But perhaps there’s black privilege, as they tend to get the most attention out of authorities for the most menial things like walking down the street. Quite a privilege!BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:22 pmWell anything that might be considered ignorance would be a product of it if anything. A lot of the time it involves something that doesn't happen to the beneficiary.
Well I really don't know about you, but whatever that frustration might be called when it has to do with expectations that are substantiated, that's what I feel a lot of progressives get uptight over. That is when you're talking about arguably willing engagements and not trolls that spam comment sections and movie anticipation polls.Sir Will wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:00 amSeriously. Ignorance may be bliss but it's annoying as hell for other people.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:05 pmBut that's not how white privilege works!clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:36 pm Yawn. I wonder when God is going to bless me with all of this ''privilege'' that my penis and melanin count is meant to be giving me.
*Checks bank balance* Nope.
Oh, well. I'll keep waiting patiently I guess.
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The only de jure discrimination I've seen does not favor white people or men. Considering whiteness normal doesn't seem to have hurt Asians any. Any male privilege does not seem to extend to the justice system, longevity, or college enrollment.
If one assumes that any statistical difference must be the result of prejudice, those things would seem awkward to explain. If one thinks only the statistical differences that might justify the discrimination you prefer are valid, I think one might want to take a long, hard look at oneself. Anyone determined enough to be racist or sexist can find something that justifies it to themselves, after all. Average IQ scores. Criminal statistics. Any number of social measurements, for that matter.
My method is to not treat people by their race or sex (except for dating, medical reasons, whatnot). It has the advantage of letting people sort themselves out by their own merits.
And if the purpose of racial and sexual discrimination is to reduce the effects of current discrimination, why isn't there a big push toward hiring, promoting, and paying by metrics? Reduce things to numbers or explain why the numbers don't work, and then if there are still separate outcomes, tackle find the real reasons.
If one assumes that any statistical difference must be the result of prejudice, those things would seem awkward to explain. If one thinks only the statistical differences that might justify the discrimination you prefer are valid, I think one might want to take a long, hard look at oneself. Anyone determined enough to be racist or sexist can find something that justifies it to themselves, after all. Average IQ scores. Criminal statistics. Any number of social measurements, for that matter.
My method is to not treat people by their race or sex (except for dating, medical reasons, whatnot). It has the advantage of letting people sort themselves out by their own merits.
And if the purpose of racial and sexual discrimination is to reduce the effects of current discrimination, why isn't there a big push toward hiring, promoting, and paying by metrics? Reduce things to numbers or explain why the numbers don't work, and then if there are still separate outcomes, tackle find the real reasons.
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You do not get away from discrimination by discriminating even more. And this "privilege" nonsense is nothing more than the regressive left's version of "original sin." The only thing it does is serve to excuse prejudice.Makeshift Python wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:47 pm That’s why I said ideally we should not have such programs, yet we’re not living in an ideal society. I would say affirmative action is helpful in that it gives minorities a better chance at recognition otherwise they would have been neglected in favor of the “standard” that is Caucasian which has a higher privilege. Of course if you don’t believe in “white privilege” then I can see why that’s an issue.
Or I’m just plain old discriminating and that makes me a terrible person because context doesn’t matter.
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“Regressive left” lolAdmiral X wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:51 amYou do not get away from discrimination by discriminating even more. And this "privilege" nonsense is nothing more than the regressive left's version of "original sin." The only thing it does is serve to excuse prejudice.Makeshift Python wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:47 pm That’s why I said ideally we should not have such programs, yet we’re not living in an ideal society. I would say affirmative action is helpful in that it gives minorities a better chance at recognition otherwise they would have been neglected in favor of the “standard” that is Caucasian which has a higher privilege. Of course if you don’t believe in “white privilege” then I can see why that’s an issue.
Or I’m just plain old discriminating and that makes me a terrible person because context doesn’t matter.
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If the shoe fits...
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Be sure to pronounce your v’s right.