Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

[Admiral X]

That actually doesn't really describe the concept,

Yes, it does. I am very familiar with the doublethink used by the regressive left, and what I said is what it boils down to - justification for bigotry by explaining it away as not really being bigotry. Because if some people don't have double standards that apparently wouldn't have any standards.

[Makeshift Python]

Because it’s really as simple as that, right? Can’t be nuanced.

[Karha of Honor]

Jesus when will you righties learn that rules surrounding identity metrics only affect identities that are under conditions of oppressed or marginalized circumstances? That has always been the case that progressives are pushing. It's not about being nice to superficial attributes. The pretense here is that white men don't fall under those categories.

Rules? I see basically chaotic witch hunts misery and double standards.

Also if you can purchase a gun to make sure you won't be enslaved you are not fucking oppressed.

You can make a good case for the Right Wing identity being marginalized in the mainstream.

You do't get to teach. The Left will be tuned out and will entrench the right more and more with this.

I wasn't suggesting anybody is actually oppressed, but that's a fair consideration to posit.

Otherwise, media, media, media. This all comes down to division on politician sides or division by people focused on issues or people that just don't want to hear it or don't want to be able to smell it. Oh my god, diversity agenda might be at play for Captain Marvel.

And jeez, the whole topic of this thread stems from people crying that Brie Larson is a bigot.

Anyway, where are you seeing that right wing is marginalized in media or otherwise?

Blockbsuter movies are not known for their de supernarrow politics. When something as obscure as feminism is pushed in the mpost mainstream brand in the planet you can expect a reaction from the press around to people hating or not getting it because there was obscure political whatever in the script.

Since it's entertainment, how often do you see Kurt Russel or Chris Pratt talking about their politics opposed to actors the their Left?

Do you know about any Leftists Lefting in the closet in in the bigger budget American movie industry?

Are you aware of the fact atht you guys recently gained sports journalism dominance?

Are you aware of the fact that your tem dominates the teaching positions inj higher ed?

Do i need to go on?

WTF is up with the Left denying it's own dominandce? D Cheney was a scumbag but he never pretended to be Rothbard spreading ideas in basements while barely being relevant.

As if there’s ever been a civic culture in the US.

Of course there is and there has been.

Perhaps, in that we’re considerably more civic today than we were 50 years ago, but we still have a lot of work ahead of us it seems.

So it had a civic culture and has one. Concession accepted.

[Admiral X]

Because it’s really as simple as that, right? Can’t be nuanced.

Ironic to see someone following this ideology complain about nuance. But to answer your question, no. Prejudice based on race is racism and prejudice based on sex is sexism, regardless of who it comes from or who they direct it at. There is no "punching up" or down, it just is what it is.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Jesus when will you righties learn that rules surrounding identity metrics only affect identities that are under conditions of oppressed or marginalized circumstances? That has always been the case that progressives are pushing. It's not about being nice to superficial attributes. The pretense here is that white men don't fall under those categories.

Rules? I see basically chaotic witch hunts misery and double standards.

Also if you can purchase a gun to make sure you won't be enslaved you are not fucking oppressed.

You can make a good case for the Right Wing identity being marginalized in the mainstream.

You do't get to teach. The Left will be tuned out and will entrench the right more and more with this.

I wasn't suggesting anybody is actually oppressed, but that's a fair consideration to posit.

Otherwise, media, media, media. This all comes down to division on politician sides or division by people focused on issues or people that just don't want to hear it or don't want to be able to smell it. Oh my god, diversity agenda might be at play for Captain Marvel.

And jeez, the whole topic of this thread stems from people crying that Brie Larson is a bigot.

Anyway, where are you seeing that right wing is marginalized in media or otherwise?

Blockbsuter movies are not known for their de supernarrow politics. When something as obscure as feminism is pushed in the mpost mainstream brand in the planet you can expect a reaction from the press around to people hating or not getting it because there was obscure political whatever in the script.

Since it's entertainment, how often do you see Kurt Russel or Chris Pratt talking about their politics opposed to actors the their Left?

Do you know about any Leftists Lefting in the closet in in the bigger budget American movie industry?

Are you aware of the fact atht you guys recently gained sports journalism dominance?

Are you aware of the fact that your tem dominates the teaching positions inj higher ed?

Do i need to go on?

WTF is up with the Left denying it's own dominandce? D Cheney was a scumbag but he never pretended to be Rothbard spreading ideas in basements while barely being relevant.

As if there’s ever been a civic culture in the US.

Of course there is and there has been.

Perhaps, in that we’re considerably more civic today than we were 50 years ago, but we still have a lot of work ahead of us it seems.

So it had a civic culture and has one. Concession accepted.

I don't really see a push for more original female superheroes that obscure. The smiling controversy isn't that big of a deal. And the whole thing about male journalists didn't have anything to do with this or even one of her movies. So this is part of what I'm getting at, is I'm just not following specifically.

I see Chris Pratt drone on quite a bit about his religion quite a bit now in days. That's opposite of left, and potentially just as dry.

It'd help better if you talked about Rightists hanging in the closet instead of leftist privilege. There's sure a good number of outspoken leftists in comparison, but that makes sense when you're in the entertainment industry and not really bound to conservative lifestyle. BTW Robert Downey Jr. is proud conservative after his rehabilitation. I've always got a big impression that Disney is conservative appropriate with stuff. Fox sure isn't in the closet one bit. Bruce Willis, open Trump supporter who didn't particularly get thrown out.

Higher education? You mean like STEM that often time maybe requires some token sociological driven classes as part of gen ed curriculum? Maybe more social science curriculums that talk about how social conditions 25 hours a day. That's kind of where leftist principles cultivate (that don't really fare well in the job market btw). My degree was very bipartisan.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Slash, in what parallel timeline is Feminism, AKA the movement that has gathered various forms of controversy for decades, the political force that gave us women's suffrage, the thing which companies like Credo and Dove try to use as a gimmick to sell their products, considered "obscure"? If I drag a dozen random people off the street can you tell me that even one of them hasn't heard of feminism?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Slash, in what parallel timeline is Feminism, AKA the movement that has gathered various forms of controversy for decades, the political force that gave us women's suffrage, the thing which companies like Credo and Dove try to use as a gimmick to sell their products, considered "obscure"? If I drag a dozen random people off the street can you tell me that even one of them hasn't heard of feminism?

If you associate it basically with the left, then I can see it coming off as obscure to the right I guess. But framing these kind of things in a left right divide without knowing the foundation of these kind of things, as if it's no different than a football game, seems overly superficial. Judging this kind of circuit crudely through social media or left voters vs right voters doesn't serve to be very conductive.

[Madner Kami]

the concept of punching up versus punching down

This means what exactly?

He literally added a winky face. Did he really need to add /sarcasm for you people to get it?

It's great for you, if you two surf on one wave-length, communications-wise. He doesn't surf on the same wave that I do and clearly neither do some other posters here. That winky face can have quite a different meaning to us, than it does to you or to him. I read it as him making a provocative statement, for example and it's based on my impression of prior posts by him.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

the concept of punching up versus punching down

This means what exactly?

It's actually seems to be more born in comedy and has to do with circumstances of power when considering who's being ridiculed as can often be the mode of standup comedy.

So like, making light of rich people instead of poor.

I don't really see it as a double standard considering comedy's generally no holds bar in terms of decency more than other forms of media(?)

[Madner Kami]

So it's fine to make jokes about people as long as they are above your ethnicity on the given social ladder? I can go to, say, Nigeria and make n-word jokes there and I get a pass? I can go to China and make jokes about chinese people? Jew-jokes in Israel?