Illegal Border Crossings Surge

[sayla0079]

While yes I agree there are problems with illegal immigration I don't think a wall is the answer. 1. It wouldn't be cost effective since people would find a way around it. 2.even if that takes care of the people crossing illegally what about the ones here already?

[Darth Wedgius]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

[Draco Dracul]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

[Yukaphile]

93 species are going to be wiped out because of the border wall. 93. Including the jaguar. What fucking right do we have to wipe out those species to stop desperate refugees and asylum seekers?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Also would prefer an immigration solution that doesn't involve destroying a local drinking water source and defiling lots of Native American graves.

[Darth Wedgius]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

I'm open to suggestions. The wall itself isn't that important to me, but I'd like a major crimp put into illegal immigration.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

I'm open to suggestions. The wall itself isn't that important to me, but I'd like a major crimp put into illegal immigration.

I think streamlining our legal immigration process so it doesn't take ten years of living in legal no-man's-land to get legit status would help.

[Darth Wedgius]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

I'm open to suggestions. The wall itself isn't that important to me, but I'd like a major crimp put into illegal immigration.

I think streamlining our legal immigration process so it doesn't take ten years of living in legal no-man's-land to get legit status would help.

What about a way that keeps legal immigration at current levels and still makes significant cuts in illegal immigration?

[G-Man]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

I'm open to suggestions. The wall itself isn't that important to me, but I'd like a major crimp put into illegal immigration.

I think streamlining our legal immigration process so it doesn't take ten years of living in legal no-man's-land to get legit status would help.

I am never impressed by arguments for "reducing illegal immigration" by giving more illegal aliens a legal way to immigrate. We need a way to make certain that we can keep people out of the country whom we have decided should not be here. There is no point to a legal immigration system if you cannot choose whom you want to let in and whom you don't.

It's sort of like arguing about reducing rape, and someone saying "well, women would get raped less if they consented more." True, but unless you have a right NOT to consent, consent is not very meaningful.

[Draco Dracul]

I think a border wall will probably be somewhat effective at stopping people crossing the border illegally. It's a delaying tactic for would-be crossers that will help to create a narrower space needing to be monitored and increasing the response time window. Walls plus monitoring have worked elsewhere.

While that's not all illegal immigration, it is a good part of it. Anyone complaining that it won't stop people overstaying their visas are like people complaining that a flu shot won't stop you from getting hit by a car; it's not supposed to, and there are other ways to accomplish that end.

Combined with denying all public aid to illegal immigrants might help to put a big crimp in illegal immigration. A constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies from working could help, too.

And there are ways to do it that don't cause massive environmental damage, and cede land that Americans fought and died for.

I'm open to suggestions. The wall itself isn't that important to me, but I'd like a major crimp put into illegal immigration.

I think streamlining our legal immigration process so it doesn't take ten years of living in legal no-man's-land to get legit status would help.

What about a way that keeps legal immigration at current levels and still makes significant cuts in illegal immigration?

Your only real option for that, even with the wall on the table, is to crash the US economy.

Either that or just drop the pretense and just start openly persecuting Latinos.