Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

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Yes, because it was review bombed.
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And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
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Sir Will wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:57 am Yes, because it was review bombed.
So they claim. ;)
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
Let me be clear, that there are two types of failure.
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Yeah. The first is when a film bombs, thus validating your desire to see it and everything it stands for fail. The second is when you stick your fingers in your ears and stubbornly insist it did fail, somehow, because the alternative would be admitting that you are wrong.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:08 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
Let me be clear, that there are two types of failure.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:21 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:08 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
Let me be clear, that there are two types of failure.
Sarcasm changes nothing.
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Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
First of all, review bombing works BOTH WAYS. In fact, Disney/Marvel has the advantage here as its confirmed that companies like them hire agencies to review bomb RT for five star reviews.

Second of all, calling anyone with opinions that differ from yours a troll is a great way to advertise your mental illness.

Third, there is evidence to support that Disney or parties acting on their behalf purchased excess tickets and didn't show up for opening weekend. A few theaters mentioned that their theater was half full every every day opening weekend by THE EXACT SAME NUMBER when a headcount was taken despite being old out. statistically, this is not possible to be a fluke. Its not conclusive proof of shenanigans on Disney's behalf mind you, but still shady AF.

What is conclusive and confirmed is that Disney rigged the system by having Captain Marvel play on numerous screens causing their competition to be muscled out or reduced in playing power that weekend.

To me, its a movie and not an appealing one. Its star doesn't appeal to me, its politics are psychotic as is its hype machine. Seriously, what world do these people live in that this is the first movie ever to star a female lead in, what I think is intended to be in this case, a strong action leading role? Brie comes off as well, Brie. She's not strong, she's entitled. There's a difference. See Kill Bill, Alita, Edge of Tomorrow, or the Fast & the Furious movies for strong leading women.

If this movies success, more by crook than hook, is a victory for you, Hey, congratulations. For me, its mystifying and this weekends box office will be very telling of what comes next. I personally feel it would have been better for comics, geek culture, and society at large if it had flopped or underperformed, but dems the breaks.

Also, the future of the MCU will also be interesting. TLJ was also not very good and played many of the same politics and well. The fact that it WAS successful cannot be debated and that success was the definition of Pyrrhic as the SW franchise is barely registering in pop culture consciousness these days.

Will have to wait and see if the MCU goes down the same road. I'm not certain it will as the MCU doesn't have the same founding in multi-generation appeal that Star Wars does but we will wait and see. Star Wars has been passed on by the children of my generation to the following ones. The MCU is this generations baby, the generation of instant access to everything and the Tide Pops challenge. So it's supporting crowd is of a entirely different animal.
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Because it’s a damn mystery why anyone would like this film. Therefore it must be a hoax.
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MyUserName wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:19 am
Makeshift Python wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
First of all, review bombing works BOTH WAYS. In fact, Disney/Marvel has the advantage here as its confirmed that companies like them hire agencies to review bomb RT for five star reviews.

Second of all, calling anyone with opinions that differ from yours a troll is a great way to advertise your mental illness.

Third, there is evidence to support that Disney or parties acting on their behalf purchased excess tickets and didn't show up for opening weekend. A few theaters mentioned that their theater was half full every every day opening weekend by THE EXACT SAME NUMBER when a headcount was taken despite being old out. statistically, this is not possible to be a fluke. Its not conclusive proof of shenanigans on Disney's behalf mind you, but still shady AF.

What is conclusive and confirmed is that Disney rigged the system by having Captain Marvel play on numerous screens causing their competition to be muscled out or reduced in playing power that weekend.

To me, its a movie and not an appealing one. Its star doesn't appeal to me, its politics are psychotic as is its hype machine. Seriously, what world do these people live in that this is the first movie ever to star a female lead in, what I think is intended to be in this case, a strong action leading role? Brie comes off as well, Brie. She's not strong, she's entitled. There's a difference. See Kill Bill, Alita, Edge of Tomorrow, or the Fast & the Furious movies for strong leading women.

If this movies success, more by crook than hook, is a victory for you, Hey, congratulations. For me, its mystifying and this weekends box office will be very telling of what comes next. I personally feel it would have been better for comics, geek culture, and society at large if it had flopped or underperformed, but dems the breaks.

Also, the future of the MCU will also be interesting. TLJ was also not very good and played many of the same politics and well. The fact that it WAS successful cannot be debated and that success was the definition of Pyrrhic as the SW franchise is barely registering in pop culture consciousness these days.

Will have to wait and see if the MCU goes down the same road. I'm not certain it will as the MCU doesn't have the same founding in multi-generation appeal that Star Wars does but we will wait and see. Star Wars has been passed on by the children of my generation to the following ones. The MCU is this generations baby, the generation of instant access to everything and the Tide Pops challenge. So it's supporting crowd is of a entirely different animal.
What spectacular BS. Where is this 'proof' that Disney is buying its own tickets, rigs theatres or pays people to lave positive user reviews? This is getting sad.
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