VOY: Remember

[SuccubusYuri]

Fascinating. I didn't know the Queen still technically had that power, I thought Charles the first doing that type of stuff led to the English Civil War.

The Queen has that particular power on the condition that she never uses it. One of those quirks of British government.

Although the Queen DID dissolve the Austrailian parliament in the 1970s.

[Wargriffin]

Voyager really liked episodes about buried memories, hidden memories, and fake memories.

It make writing easier when you can just restructured the character with a memory they forgot

[Beastro]

ALSO, MORE NECK THINGIES! I never get tired of those. XD

Makes me think about what snide remarks people would make about the much akin to our own disgust at "pill popping" (Which Trek also got into with The Voyage Home before this).

[Beastro]

Fascinating. I didn't know the Queen still technically had that power, I thought Charles the first doing that type of stuff led to the English Civil War.

The Queen has that particular power on the condition that she never uses it. One of those quirks of British government.

There is no condition, it's just that everyone knows when it would cause trouble.

When she does exercise it when it's clearly of use there is no problem, as everyone sees the since in it, as in Yuri's example of the Australia's crisis.

Any British monarch could try to go back to exercising their powers like they did before Anne. We all know how that would turn out, but that does not mean they wouldn't be without the freedom to do so or in violation of anything.

Fascinating. I didn't know the Queen still technically had that power, I thought Charles the first doing that type of stuff led to the English Civil War.

The cornerstone of British government is Common Law with its pragmatism and emphasis on precedent. To lay out something in clear and solidly establish it is an alien concept and something more American and Continental in outlook.

Charles and the Civil War was more nuanced and didn't have anything to do with him violating any law rather than ignoring the demands and interests of Parliament upon whom he required financing when they wanted concessions in return for it.

All of that is at the heart of Montagu's comment about how Parliament could fight the king 100 times and they couldn't win while all he had to do was win once and they'd all be dead.

[Jonathan101]

Only saw a couple episodes, yeah it's pretty fucked up.

As for the mutant registration act, they never go in depth as to what exactly it entails. I do know in a lot of the comics if you didn't register, whatever registering entailed, you where thrown into prison. Which in of itself suggests the act was too extreme.

In the comics it's mostly associated with time-travel stories where the Mutant Registration Act became the first step towards mutant death camps.

Which is one reason why, when Marvel did Civil War several years later fans automatically sided with the anti-Registration crowd, because they were fighting against a law called the Superhuman Registration Act (which, ironically, specifically excluded mutants, although the reasons given for the mutants staying it out were pitiful). Even if the SRA was more benign than the MRA (whether or not it was depended on who was writing a particular issue), you might as well have called it the Jim Crow Act for all the PR damage that did.

Generally the MRA itself was just depicted as "if you are a mutant you must register as such with the government", but the mutants fought it because they saw- correctly- that it was the first step towards much worse. The only problem with this though is that the X-Men themselves expect the government to respect the rights and privacy of mutants but routinely violate the rights and privacy of both humans AND mutants themselves.

[PerrySimm]

Just need to find a "Happy Belated Genocide" card to slip this into...

[FaxModem1]

It's worth noting that something regarding Torres's brain happens again later, in "Random Thoughts", wherein that telepathic society excises violent thoughts from people's heads.

Of course, that's nothing compared to all the psychic violence that happened to Tuvok. There's a reason why, in the Star Trek Titan novels, they noted that all the damage done to Tuvok over the years on Voyager made it to where he was going to have to refrain from using telepathy, because of all the telepathic trauma he went through.

[TGLS]

edit: The U.K. is under parliamentary supremacy right? Does that mean that Parliament could pass really ridiculous extreme versions of this with just above 50%? I don't know how Parliament works so forgive my ignorance.

Well, sort of. In Britain, when a later act overrides an earlier act, the later one takes precedence (this is disfavoured in the United States, where judges use may make reasonable interpretations to reconcile them). However, if they passed some ridiculous act that overrode something that is perceived to be a "constitutional statute", then they must explicitly declare that they are overriding that act. Of course, there's nothing written down stopping them from doing that, only convention and public outcry.

[Yukaphile]

I'm curious, why didn't this episode get a 20 Dollar Bill award from Chuck? I mean, it was a direct parallel to the stuff the Nazis and Soviets did in their country.

[Beelzquill]

I think he didn't give it the 20 dollar bill award because the main characters of Voyager didn't actually commit the genocide this time. It was other characters who committed it in the past and were covering it up.