Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

[MyUserName]

And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.

When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.

First of all, review bombing works BOTH WAYS. In fact, Disney/Marvel has the advantage here as its confirmed that companies like them hire agencies to review bomb RT for five star reviews.

Second of all, calling anyone with opinions that differ from yours a troll is a great way to advertise your mental illness.

Third, there is evidence to support that Disney or parties acting on their behalf purchased excess tickets and didn't show up for opening weekend. A few theaters mentioned that their theater was half full every every day opening weekend by THE EXACT SAME NUMBER when a headcount was taken despite being old out. statistically, this is not possible to be a fluke. Its not conclusive proof of shenanigans on Disney's behalf mind you, but still shady AF.

What is conclusive and confirmed is that Disney rigged the system by having Captain Marvel play on numerous screens causing their competition to be muscled out or reduced in playing power that weekend.

To me, its a movie and not an appealing one. Its star doesn't appeal to me, its politics are psychotic as is its hype machine. Seriously, what world do these people live in that this is the first movie ever to star a female lead in, what I think is intended to be in this case, a strong action leading role? Brie comes off as well, Brie. She's not strong, she's entitled. There's a difference. See Kill Bill, Alita, Edge of Tomorrow, or the Fast & the Furious movies for strong leading women.

If this movies success, more by crook than hook, is a victory for you, Hey, congratulations. For me, its mystifying and this weekends box office will be very telling of what comes next. I personally feel it would have been better for comics, geek culture, and society at large if it had flopped or underperformed, but dems the breaks.

Also, the future of the MCU will also be interesting. TLJ was also not very good and played many of the same politics and well. The fact that it WAS successful cannot be debated and that success was the definition of Pyrrhic as the SW franchise is barely registering in pop culture consciousness these days.

Will have to wait and see if the MCU goes down the same road. I'm not certain it will as the MCU doesn't have the same founding in multi-generation appeal that Star Wars does but we will wait and see. Star Wars has been passed on by the children of my generation to the following ones. The MCU is this generations baby, the generation of instant access to everything and the Tide Pops challenge. So it's supporting crowd is of a entirely different animal.

What spectacular BS. Where is this 'proof' that Disney is buying its own tickets, rigs theatres or pays people to lave positive user reviews? This is getting sad.

So I'm assuming they don't have GOOGLE or other search engines in your part of the world and you need others to look up facts for you before you argue them.

Either that or you're arguing because someone from the "other side" posted something and you can't refute a damn thing but you feel the need to argue anyway because fanaticism and tribalism are the mental illnesses of the western world it seems.

[Admiral X]

Be kind of pointless to buy tickets for your own movie. I mean, even if you think it somehow makes your movie look better, the point is to make money, and that just cuts into the bottom line.

[Madner Kami]

Be kind of pointless to buy tickets for your own movie. I mean, even if you think it somehow makes your movie look better, the point is to make money, and that just cuts into the bottom line.

Technically, you could inflate the numbers this way, in order to achieve a higher sales-price of the property, assuming you want to sell it or, in case of a company being traded in stocks, it could inflate the value of the stocks. I don't see the former in the case of the MCU and Disney, the later option is always possible, but I find it highly unlikely, not to mention that it borders or is outright breaking insider-dealing laws and thus would need to happen hush-hush in the first place, which seems like somewhat incompatible in this particular case.

[Makeshift Python]

It’s simply not possible. NOT POSSIBLE that anyone could give TLJ a pass. Therefore conspiracy.

[MyUserName]

Be kind of pointless to buy tickets for your own movie. I mean, even if you think it somehow makes your movie look better, the point is to make money, and that just cuts into the bottom line.

Technically, you could inflate the numbers this way, in order to achieve a higher sales-price of the property, assuming you want to sell it or, in case of a company being traded in stocks, it could inflate the value of the stocks. I don't see the former in the case of the MCU and Disney, the later option is always possible, but I find it highly unlikely, not to mention that it borders or is outright breaking insider-dealing laws and thus would need to happen hush-hush in the first place, which seems like somewhat incompatible in this particular case.

After a year of seeing Disney commit repeated and blatant acts of libel against the Star Wars fandom, acts that clearly involved meetings and organized/calculated efforts that cost them money to orchestrate, and seeing their direct employees repeatedly attack, insult, and harass fans on twitter, I have little trouble believing they'd be willing to buy up excess seats just to pump up their agenda with Captain Marvel. Disney has full on embraced the idea of a theocracy with how they coerce public opinion and orchestrate events to suit them.

No, there's no conclusive proof they've done this, but I also have issues believing in the "innocent coincidence" of fridays box office for captain marvel being a 70% drop from last friday, which was followed by Disney owned news outlets congratulating the company on a successful weekend and surpassing 700 million at the box office, followed by an inexplicable 40% leap in profits the following two days to push them to exactly that point.

I'll say it again. I'll put it in caps. THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF DISNEY BUYING OUT THEATERS! But there is something about the way these numbers are trending that stink to high heavens. Maybe the norms, the people that just don't do geek culture, are just that hyped about Avengers: Endgame. Maybe they are just that conditioned. Future trends will confirm what exactly has happened either way,

[Makeshift Python]

THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF DISNEY BUYING OUT THEATERS!

Indeed.

[Zoinksberg]

So I'm assuming they don't have GOOGLE or other search engines in your part of the world and you need others to look up facts for you before you argue them.

Dunno how it works in your part of the world, but in most parts it is the person making the claim who is required to submit evidence to their claim. Telling someone to "look up the stuff I say to prove I'm right" is pretty lazy, don't you think?

[TGLS]

So I'm assuming they don't have GOOGLE or other search engines in your part of the world and you need others to look up facts for you before you argue them.

Well, I googled:

• Disney Buying tickets to its own movie
• Disney rigging theatres
• disney bribing critics (That one was a suggestion)

and found no information from credible sources (though some interesting stories on Disneyflix, the Disney-Fox deal, movie rigging, and the L.A. Times Ban). The only links talking about it were on forums, Reddit, Youtube, and Quora.

[Admiral X]

I wouldn't be surprised at them bribing critics (or threatening to cut off their access), as that has been done by other companies before, but I do have trouble believing they'd waste money buying tickets to their own movie. They are one of the biggest media companies in the world, so profit very much matters to them.

[MixedDrops]

I have to wonder what kind of cognitive dissonance its taking to accuse everyone telling you you're wrong of being mentally ill while simultaneously posting the movie business equivalent of "jet fuel can't melt steel beams".