Police discussion/debate thread

[Beelzquill]

On the subject of police, did you know the U.S. police are not constitutionally obligated to enforce restraining orders and protect the citizens of the U.S.
U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2005
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales
docket No. 04-278
So the whole "Protect and Serve" stuff is sort of bullshit to me.

[Yukaphile]

That was introduced from lawmakers, corrupt lawmakers during the height of the Bush era. Same year the assault weapons ban expired and they voted to immunize gunmakers from legal consequences. Police are still part of law enforcement, the middle ground between making the laws and passing sentence.

[Beelzquill]

The Supreme Court aren't lawmakers, their law "interpreters" and it was a 7-2 decision so a couple of moderates like Kennedy and Liberals like Sandra Day O'Connor ruled for it.

[Yukaphile]

It's still part of the judicial branch, and I maintain law enforcement is still the middle ground between that and creating the laws.

[Beelzquill]

Well, yeah? I meant that federally, the supreme court said that Police were not obligated to protect, meaning there is no legal federal penalty for police officers to refuse to prevent an armed robbery, or a stalker breaking a restraining order. I didn't mean that police create laws.

[Admiral X]

There was a recent ruling down in Florida over that school shooting there which found the same thing. Remember that resource officer who ran like a little bitch while the children he was there to protect were getting killed? Yeah, no legal consequences for that guy at all, because police aren't obligated to protect people. Another reason I support concealed carry.

[Yukaphile]

I fear concealed carry given how easy guns are to buy here in the country. Though I much prefer that over open carry, people swaggering through the streets with machine guns strapped to their chests to make up for their small-penis complex. That's just pure intimidation. Plain and simple.

[Admiral X]

Open carry is just a huge sign saying "shoot me first!" Concealed carry keeps would-be criminals guessing.

[Yukaphile]

At least you're more reasonable than my other Libertarian friend. He thinks you should have open carry in schools and hospitals.

[Madner Kami]

It's still part of the judicial branch, and I maintain law enforcement is still the middle ground between that and creating the laws.

Um, no. Law enforcement is, by it's very nature, part of the executive branch. They enforce the law. They don't make the law (legislative branch), they don't interpret the law (judicial branch), they execute the law. Sometimes literally.