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clearspira wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:29 amWe are also back to picking and choosing. You cannot acknoledge the Abrahamic God alongside other gods because he is The One God. He is everything. What you say does not make sense under examination.
Isn't Allah completely distinct from the holy trinity?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:58 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:29 amWe are also back to picking and choosing. You cannot acknoledge the Abrahamic God alongside other gods because he is The One God. He is everything. What you say does not make sense under examination.
Isn't Allah completely distinct from the holy trinity?
He is still effectively The One God regardless of what else. You cannot say ''I think my gods and this god also exists'' without serious mental gymnastics due to the fact that ''one'' and ''many'' are two opposing concepts.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:26 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:58 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:29 amWe are also back to picking and choosing. You cannot acknoledge the Abrahamic God alongside other gods because he is The One God. He is everything. What you say does not make sense under examination.
Isn't Allah completely distinct from the holy trinity?
He is still effectively The One God regardless of what else. You cannot say ''I think my gods and this god also exists'' without serious mental gymnastics due to the fact that ''one'' and ''many'' are two opposing concepts.
Yeah they have very exclusive thinking on the matter. I was just saying that there is no encompassing Abrahamic God technically between the three religions. At least at the branching point of Islam, Allah is a separate being from the Father or whatever. Of course the hebrews and muslims don't see Jesus as messiah.
..What mirror universe?
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I am agnostic? I think there could be a god or supernatural creature other than human but I've seen no real evidence to point one out to me so I live as if they don't exist. If a god wanted me to worship him/her/it, they better directly talk to me in a way I know I'm not dreaming or hallucinating and allow me to film it and not corrupt the data so I'd have proof this conversation happened.

I was raised Roman Catholic, and no joke decided I wanted to be a Priest or a Monk when I was 13. I was really devout during high school and then when I was in my senior year, I just couldn't get past the central idea of God being Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient as well as being benevolent. Pope Benedict made some proclamation about anyone not catholic no matter what not going to heaven and I just cracked. I became a stereotypical nihilist for a few years and I'm still somewhat coming to grip with it so I haven't completely figured it out for myself.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:29 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:56 am
clearspira wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:18 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:01 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:55 am Whilst we are on the subject, the other thing that annoys me is the absolute certainty theists have that their god out of the 3000 plus other gods throughout history is right
Yeah please remember that is not a trait for all theists, or even all religions.

Right here, I am a theist who believes that there are other gods than the ones I worship.
Most theists though lets be honest.
Really? Do you know that? Did you read a peer-reviewed sociology study on that? Did you draw any statistics for it?

Hinduism, to strike an example, in its orthodox form, posits the believe that just about all gods are real because they are different aspects of one core divine truth, and it is the most popular religion in one of the most well-populated countries on the friggin planet.

If you mean "Christianity" or "Abrahamic Monotheism", then say that. It really cheeses me off when atheists keep painting all religions, like say, mine, with theological arguments and attitudes that only apply to some of the religions they've encountered. If we are looking at overall religious history of humankind, monotheism tends to be the exception rather than the rule.
Christianity and Islam mostly yes - the 2 most influential and powerful religions today and lets be honest for the last 1500 years minimum. That is why you have a stereotype.

And again, monotheism may be a minority on an historical scale, but in terms of world influence since Rome, monotheistic religions are by far the most powerful and influential. Being a minority in this case is irrelevant.

We are also back to picking and choosing. You cannot acknoledge the Abrahamic God alongside other gods because he is The One God. He is everything. What you say does not make sense under examination.
Alright, I can acknowledge the Abrahamic Monotheists are the current and recent majority. Just please don't forget the very large and significant pluralities when you talk about All Religions or Religious People or Theists. I don't go through my monthly crisis of faith and perform elaborate celebrations on the solstices and equinoxes just to be lumped in with the Yaweh fandom.
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