How best to combat fake news?

[Yukaphile]

@Riedquat Yeah, but when you're treating a victim as morally equivalent to her attacker, you know there's something fundamentally bankrupt with your society and our values.

[Worffan101]

I mean, G-Man, the problem is that the right makes up whatever crap suits their prejudices and calls them "alternative facts". Trump straight-up lies every fucking day and whenever people bother to call him out on it he just say that what he says is true and he doesn't care about the evidence.

How the fuck is a society supposed to deal with the proliferation of propaganda lies that exist solely to support an ideology that explicitly rejects any reality that they don't find convenient in favor of whatever made-up crap suits their insane belief that Hillary Clinton is working with lizard-aliens to run a Satanic pedophile ring from a restaurant basement (a basement that doesn't exist in real life) or whatever crap QAnon's memeing about now? For fuck's sake, this shouldn't be so hard hard.

[Yukaphile]

That... is something that really irks me, tbh. The right knows there's a sharp divide between Sanders voters and Clinton voters, and they're milking that division for all its worth. I know Libertarians, personally, who believe in that pizzagate crap, that think she's a tyrant murderer who had Seth Rich killed even though his family doesn't think so - obviously. Who buy into Donna Brazille's bullshit that the primaries were rigged against Sanders - failing to see that being the favorite doesn't mean it was fucking handed to her, and indeed, to claim otherwise diminishes her hard work and her campaign workers' efforts in earning every effort, that Sanders could have tried to appeal outside his "white man's working class" base, but chose not to.

And now that Sanders is back in the race, it's just gonna get worse. Well, this time, we have Elizabeth Warren, who is the one the Sanders voters wanted in the first place - because she has the brains and accomplishments Sanders wishes he had. And those staying with him now shall only be incels and MRAs. In other words, the hardcore misogynists. And good riddance. We don't want them in the party.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Worffan's not exactly talking out of his ass here. I'm familiar with what he's saying.

It's usually a left tendency to weigh violations against people, while the right is suspect to challenging the legitimacy of the person making the claim, rather overt in indiscriminate fashion.

[Admiral X]

It's usually a left tendency to weigh violations against people, while the right is suspect to challenging the legitimacy of the person making the claim, rather overt in indiscriminate fashion.

Riiight... You never see anyone on the left attacking the person rather than the claim.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's usually a left tendency to weigh violations against people, while the right is suspect to challenging the legitimacy of the person making the claim, rather overt in indiscriminate fashion.

Riiight... You never see anyone on the left attacking the person rather than the claim.

Violations against someone is an attack, funny guy.