Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

[Admiral X]

[MixedDrops]

George Miller talked about his experience working with the writer of the Vagina Monologues and how he couldn't help but identify as a feminist after talking to her while working on Fury Road. Explain how what Disney has done/does is any more offensive to your sensibilities?

They use it as a selling point and constantly crow about it. and he just discussed it as something that happened while he was making his movie.

Why is this particular form of marketing more annoying to you more than other types of marketing? It's all cynical, but that's big studios in general. I have no doubt you laugh at the people who get a bug up their ass when Tarantino movies, for instance, have "too much" guns and violence, so why the double standard?

Also since you're discounting situations where movie staff are asked about it in interviews or are talking about the creative process, I don't see how that leaves a lot left over for you to even get annoyed at. TLJ, for example, had basically none of that in its posters, trailers, etc.

[Yukaphile]

You're talking to the guy who hates identity politics, who thinks they're worthless, even though it's become the new term for civil rights and changing social perceptions in the 21st century. Do you really need to ask?

[Makeshift Python]

“I don’t see color” may be something that works in fantasy land, but we’re no where near that and trying to pretend otherwise is ignorant.

The civil rights movement didn’t just magically erase racial issues overnight. People that try to think that or use Obama’s election as “proof” that we’re in a post-racial country is just putting fingers into your ears and yelling.

[Admiral X]

I've seen enough racism from all kinds of different people to know that using more racism and perpetuating racial stereotypes isn't going to somehow "fix" anything. Honestly the way some of you act, it's like you think the works of Orwell were an instruction manual rather than a warning.

[Makeshift Python]

It will be great when we reach a point where skin color is as trivial as one’s ancestry, but we’re simply not there and have way too much baggage to just pretend otherwise.

To combat racism is to acknowledge it head on and work from there. You can’t just jump from A to Z.

[Admiral X]

And your solution is to fight bigotry with bigotry. Does the doublethink hurt at all?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Judging Brie Larson's comment from years ago as a perpetuation of racial injustice as it's discussed today is plain asinine. I mean, especially with regard to Captain Marvel and Disney schilling for progressivism, which has nothing to do with that.

[Karha of Honor]

It will be great when we reach a point where skin color is as trivial as one’s ancestry, but we’re simply not there and have way too much baggage to just pretend otherwise.

To combat racism is to acknowledge it head on and work from there. You can’t just jump from A to Z.

Yeah, you just tatoo kindergarten child molester on your forehead than start to debate the issue.

That's a good starting point.

Slash’s ignorance plays up again.

Calling me names does not get you points and begging the mods for my ban won't work here so make an argument.

Pointing out your ignorance isn't name calling. And I'm not begging any mods.

Anyway, let's just stop interacting. You're not worth the time.

i am just goin to unperson you in front of everyone and leave...

See what I mean, folks? 8D If at first you don't succeed, redefine success so you were right all along!

WTF is 8D?


I provided some context. This shit fails long term or fails even harder with no long term IP backing it up.

8D is an eyes wide open big grin smiley face.

It fails long term or fails even harder...because you say it will. We're supposed to trust that you can predict the future of film despite having fallen so hard on your face you're farting nose cartilage in forecasting this movie as the MCU's first big failure.

i do not recall saying that.

If you don’t like it it’s probably no longer meant for you so you might as well just drop it.

They weren't wery straight with me. They should have said it's rated P for partisan politics and make it clear in the marketing that they don't want anyone outside of the self identified PC left watching their product.

You want people to start tagging their left-of-center politics to avoid triggering you, little snowflake? Movie theaters are not your safe-space hugbox.

Who is the pussy in this scenario? Who was not clear about what the movie is?

"wah wah wah, I don't like it when companies show pride in diversity"

You do you, bro.

He does him which is better than studios picking the wrong decade for this...

You're talking to the guy who hates identity politics, who thinks they're worthless, even though it's become the new term for civil rights and changing social perceptions in the 21st century. Do you really need to ask?

With the rate the Left is making itsdelf miserable, how long will that last?

[Yukaphile]

@Admiral X I find those preaching the "evils" of identity politics often tend to be white reactionaries - practicing an "identity politics" all their own - WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS. I don't think identity politics are bad, anyway, because to cite identity politics is simply to acknowledge that it's a diverse electorate, that people have different needs, whether that's because of location, the issues close to their heart (we all know I'm VERY passionate on women's rights, nuff said), or even ones they feel are important to them and their community, based on grouping of land, race, or gender and more. And there's nothing wrong with that. You vote and march and rally people together into a political movement for whatever reason you want, so long as you're not hurting others. That's protected under the Constitution, right? The right to be different and to choose so?

@Makeshift Python I wish gender would someday be just as trivial, but as SF Debris discussed in his "Profit and Lace" video, there's always going to be a sexual component to our psyche, and that's a distraction and has to be dealt with, probably with very early child-rearing. Sad to say, that's why I think of all the groups to be recognized as equals, women will be the very last.