Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

It will be great when we reach a point where skin color is as trivial as one’s ancestry, but we’re simply not there and have way too much baggage to just pretend otherwise.

To combat racism is to acknowledge it head on and work from there. You can’t just jump from A to Z.

Yeah, you just tatoo kindergarten child molester on your forehead than start to debate the issue.

That's a good starting point.

With the number of times you've accused people of strawmanning, I think you might refrain from going "Oh so I'm a CHILD MOLESTER NOW?!" everytime somebody calls you out for anything.

See what I mean, folks? 8D If at first you don't succeed, redefine success so you were right all along!

WTF is 8D?


I provided some context. This shit fails long term or fails even harder with no long term IP backing it up.

8D is an eyes wide open big grin smiley face.

It fails long term or fails even harder...because you say it will. We're supposed to trust that you can predict the future of film despite having fallen so hard on your face you're farting nose cartilage in forecasting this movie as the MCU's first big failure.

i do not recall saying that.

If you don’t like it it’s probably no longer meant for you so you might as well just drop it.

They weren't wery straight with me. They should have said it's rated P for partisan politics and make it clear in the marketing that they don't want anyone outside of the self identified PC left watching their product.

You want people to start tagging their left-of-center politics to avoid triggering you, little snowflake? Movie theaters are not your safe-space hugbox.

Who is the pussy in this scenario? Who was not clear about what the movie is?

Because not giving you a Trigger Warning for SJW content that will make you clutch your pearls and stamp your feet is "being a pussy"?

[Karha of Honor]

It will be great when we reach a point where skin color is as trivial as one’s ancestry, but we’re simply not there and have way too much baggage to just pretend otherwise.

To combat racism is to acknowledge it head on and work from there. You can’t just jump from A to Z.

Yeah, you just tatoo kindergarten child molester on your forehead than start to debate the issue.

That's a good starting point.

With the number of times you've accused people of strawmanning, I think you might refrain from going "Oh so I'm a CHILD MOLESTER NOW?!" everytime somebody calls you out for anything.

See what I mean, folks? 8D If at first you don't succeed, redefine success so you were right all along!

WTF is 8D?


I provided some context. This shit fails long term or fails even harder with no long term IP backing it up.

8D is an eyes wide open big grin smiley face.

It fails long term or fails even harder...because you say it will. We're supposed to trust that you can predict the future of film despite having fallen so hard on your face you're farting nose cartilage in forecasting this movie as the MCU's first big failure.

i do not recall saying that.

If you don’t like it it’s probably no longer meant for you so you might as well just drop it.

They weren't wery straight with me. They should have said it's rated P for partisan politics and make it clear in the marketing that they don't want anyone outside of the self identified PC left watching their product.

You want people to start tagging their left-of-center politics to avoid triggering you, little snowflake? Movie theaters are not your safe-space hugbox.

Who is the pussy in this scenario? Who was not clear about what the movie is?

Because not giving you a Trigger Warning for SJW content that will make you clutch your pearls and stamp your feet is "being a pussy"?

It depends on the accusation...

Did i ever ask for a trigger warning for anything on this site?

[Makeshift Python]

And your solution is to fight bigotry with bigotry. Does the doublethink hurt at all?

No, but you’re refusing to understand the nuance as usual. I can’t tell if it’s just your inability to empathize or just willful ignorance. I have a feeling you’re just not going to try in your witless attempt at being “above” it all.

[Karha of Honor]

And your solution is to fight bigotry with bigotry. Does the doublethink hurt at all?

No, but you’re refusing to understand the nuance as usual. I can’t tell if it’s just your inability to empathize or just willful ignorance. I have a feeling you’re just not going to try in your witless attempt at being “above” it all.

Use your argument shurikens to force him into a ground fight instead of a wuxia rooftop- fight.

[Yukaphile]

Well, it's simple. I understand Admiral X. I have a young Libertarian friend myself. To them, feelings are a distraction. Life is a single, basic math equation we just need to understand. And even if true, it's gonna be eons before we ever deduce that secret, if at all. So, no. You can't treat life like a math equation. It just doesn't work that way.

[Karha of Honor]

Well, it's simple. I understand Admiral X. I have a young Libertarian friend myself. To them, feelings are a distraction. Life is a single, basic math equation we just need to understand. And even if true, it's gonna be eons before we ever deduce that secret, if at all. So, no. You can't treat life like a math equation. It just doesn't work that way.

Yeah, they are all the same...

[Yukaphile]

There is ONE thing I do like about Libertarians, and that's they agree with me that collective guilt is bullshit, and to praise your enemy for the things you agree on without treating that as an exception, but that you're just a complex human being, and that doesn't make you a monster simply for being on the other side. It's really sad in a world where the Libertarians are the ones who agree an innocent victim is an innocent victim and don't try to paint her as morally equivalent to those who victimized her. That's... really setting a low standard for the so-called "compassionate left," yes?

[Admiral X]

@Admiral X I find those preaching the "evils" of identity politics often tend to be white reactionaries - practicing an "identity politics" all their own - WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS.

I should think anyone who claims to be rational and against bigotry would see that identity politics are just a form of bigotry that tries to rationalize itself. It reminds me so much of McCarthyism and other forms of fascism that tries to hide itself inside patriotism.

That's protected under the Constitution, right? The right to be different and to choose so?

Not when it causes you to discriminate against others. The way the regressive left does it reminds me so much of their counterparts on the right, who try to use things like "religious freedom" to rationalize their own bigotry.

No, but you’re refusing to understand the nuance as usual.

There isn't much nuance to bigotry beyond how much of a bigot one is, and if it's done out of maliciousness or ignorance.

I can’t tell if it’s just your inability to empathize or just willful ignorance.

It's always entertaining when someone claims I have no empathy, especially when all they're doing is rationalizing bigotry on their part.

Well, it's simple. I understand Admiral X. I have a young Libertarian friend myself. To them, feelings are a distraction. Life is a single, basic math equation we just need to understand. And even if true, it's gonna be eons before we ever deduce that secret, if at all. So, no. You can't treat life like a math equation. It just doesn't work that way.

The only simple aspect is this - do you treat people the same under the law, or not? And yeah, one should not let appeals to emotion distract them, because that's how we get things like the Patriot Act.

And everyone already knows the meaning of life is 42.

There is ONE thing I do like about Libertarians, and that's they agree with me that collective guilt is bullshit, and to praise your enemy for the things you agree on without treating that as an exception, but that you're just a complex human being, and that doesn't make you a monster simply for being on the other side. It's really sad in a world where the Libertarians are the ones who agree an innocent victim is an innocent victim and don't try to paint her as morally equivalent to those who victimized her. That's... really setting a low standard for the so-called "compassionate left," yes?

And the thing is, identity politics are all about collective guilt, and treating anyone who doesn't conform to their rigid ideology like a monster. This is why I am so passionately against it.

[MixedDrops]

The only simple aspect is this - do you treat people the same under the law, or not? And yeah, one should not let appeals to emotion distract them, because that's how we get things like the Patriot Act.

Flying a bit off topic, but I am curious. What do you think should be done in cases where the law is being attempted to be applied equally, yet results seem to suggest something is happening during the process that taints that?

Easy example (with numbers to objectively back it up): Black men being prosecuted much more heavily for equal crimes committed by others.

And do you not think these imperfections might apply to many other aspects of society?

[G-Man]

It will be great when we reach a point where skin color is as trivial as one’s ancestry, but we’re simply not there and have way too much baggage to just pretend otherwise.

To combat racism is to acknowledge it head on and work from there. You can’t just jump from A to Z.

"Skin color" MEANS one's ancestry.

The division between black and white is not about pigmentation. It is about what continent one's forbears came from.

I don't say "I don't see color." That's ridiculous. But I also think that you either have identity politics or you don't. Saying that "it is racist" for whites to practice identity politics while letting everyone else do so is, in effect, an attempt to oppress white people.

Maybe it was okay when whites were 85-90% of the population. But as society gets more diverse, whites are simply going to have to become an interest group like everyone else or get crushed.