TNG - Best of Both Worlds

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Not being engaged in war does not mean you are not a military organisation. Switzerland hasn't been in a war for 500 years but they do in fact still have a military force and even practice conscription.

Starfleet has a range of duties but they are structured and operate like a military more than almost anything else, and the fact that they are the organisation that would be used in war if and when it broke out should pretty much settle the matter.

If they don't want to be a military they shouldn't go around acting like one.
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And yet Starfleet officers learn useless stuff at the Academy, like language, history, art, creativity, etc, that's more philosophical than useful in combat. And there's the science/medical division which is like a third of the organization and serves to puzzle together the mysteries of the cosmos.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:54 pm And yet Starfleet officers learn useless stuff at the Academy, like language, history, art, creativity, etc, that's more philosophical than useful in combat. And there's the science/medical division which is like a third of the organization and serves to puzzle together the mysteries of the cosmos.
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Ouch, epic smackdown, I concede! Am gonna need a Senzu for that burn... lol.
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TNG Enterprise doesn't use lasers. It uses phasers.

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"Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields. Don't they know that?"

Poor Star Wars fanboys. :P
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:08 pm Ouch, epic smackdown, I concede! Am gonna need a Senzu for that burn... lol.
The german armed services are among the largest apprenticeship providers for crafts of all sorts in Germany. Pretty much all officers are required to also aquire a Bachelor or Master degree in their training phase and this is not just information/computer sciences and mechatronics, but also pharmacists, doctors of all sorts (including veterinarians), studies in history, studies in politics, psychology and much more. To this end, the armed services run two universities, which also do research, like any university.

I'd be pretty surprised if it were any different in any modern western military.
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I already conceded, bruh. What's your point?
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Artabax wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:49 pm
By the time Next Gen started, the Federation hadn't been in a big intergalactic war in a century.
Cardassi war???
Picard encourages Cardassi arms shipments because he is so terrified of the War being official so soon. TNG Wounded? the one where o'Brien sings the Minstrel Boy>
That was border skirmish stuff, that wasn't full out fleet wide war.

Obrien was basically the only one on the ship that had history with them, rather than every other officer having been wrapping up in a big years long battle with billions of casualtie across countless planets.
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I would think that the organization that concerns itself with state to state conflict is what substantiates a military before the organization being one that deals with war instead of skirmishes.

Edit: Part 2 of the minireview is up here
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