Star Trek Discovery season 2 megathread

[LavarosVA]

That was certainly... something. Honestly I expected a tease for the next season at the end, but it's just a nope, in the future, who knows what happened.

[Yukaphile]

Inb4 the Cardassians and the Dominion no longer look like themselves in the 33rd century.

[Paul Walker]

Overall I've enjoyed Discovery so far.

Season 1 tried something interesting - the captain was the main "bad guy" and we got the best exploration of the mirror universe since Deep Space Nine.

Season 2 went for a series time travel arc and did a better job that the temporal cold war in Enterprise (the only real comparison). It didn't do it as well as DS9's Dominion War, but 20+ episodes in a series does have a few advantages. Any time Discovery is not focused on its task it feels like it's not doing enough. I liked the use of Pike, Number One, and Spock. Admiral Cornwell comes out of this looking like one of the most respectable member of Starfleet brass we've seen on screen. (My only issue with her death is that she is an asset, and probably should have ordered a member of the crew to do it. The ability to order a member of the crew to their death is needed in the TNG timeline as we see when Troi is taking the bridge officers test)

I am happy that with Season 3 we'll be in the future. I'm not going to say we'll definitely see the century that is said though. As a result of the damage etc, I'd far rather Discovery took us to the late 24th century / early 25th century. That way we could see more of the development of the timeline most of us know, see the continuing fallout from the Dominion War, and maybe see some old Trek faces return for a cameo or two.

[Yukaphile]

More like they added an asspull retcon to the Mirror Universe characters. I mean, being sensitive to light, really?

Yeah, no way it's reaching DS9 levels here yet. But what was Season 2's plot? Time travel stuff? Well, that explains them heading to the 4th millennium. And why would you want them to take us to the TNG era? We're getting that with Picard. There'll be plenty of retcons, asspulls, and continuity errors there, rest assured, more than our fair share once they finally get around to returning to that time period... I can only shudder. I just hope they leave the Cardassians and the Dominion alone...

[clearspira]

More like they added an asspull retcon to the Mirror Universe characters. I mean, being sensitive to light, really?

Yeah, no way it's reaching DS9 levels here yet. But what was Season 2's plot? Time travel stuff? Well, that explains them heading to the 4th millennium. And why would you want them to take us to the TNG era? We're getting that with Picard. There'll be plenty of retcons, asspulls, and continuity errors there, rest assured, more than our fair share once they finally get around to returning to that time period... I can only shudder. I just hope they leave the Cardassians and the Dominion alone...

The 24th century is done to death. The 23rd century is done to death. The 22nd century is... not done, but what we got wasn't that good. The far future is the best place to be, they can redesign it as much as they like with almost no obstacle.
I tell you, either this was some great ploy from the onset, or they've hired an actual fan who spelled out why this show has been so controversial. The Trek fandom had always been deep into the world building - how many other fandoms have people that buy tech manuals for fictional ships? Pissing around with what Trekkies know to be true will NEVER work. They should have learned that from the failure of the Kelvinverse.

[Yukaphile]

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. It'll just come crashing down. With that said, they're still going back to the 24th century with the Picard series. I just... am not looking forward to that. At all. As for this "going into the future thing..." Never thought I'd say this for STD, but label me "cautiously optimistic." CAUTIOUSLY.

[Zoinksberg]

I liked the wormhole effects. In a series where the design decisions have largely made me roll my eyes, the effects of the wormhole and using the same effect as TMP when Discovery started going through were pretty good.

I was half waiting for Spock to look directly at the camera when he said that every should be ordered to never talk about Discovery or her crew ever again. To let us know it's all perfectly corrected now, according to the writers. So now we have to assume that the TOS era is full of Discovery Truthers, that there was a ship that went to the future and there's a big conspiracy to cover it up.

Number One referring to herself as such was a funny idea that failed completely in execution. It makes it sound like that's actually her name. It would have worked better if the scene in just as she was finishing saying her name and then "Rank: Commander, First Officer of the USS Enterprise".

So with Georgiou in the future supposedly the Section 31 series would take place between the events of Will You Take My Hand and Point of Light. Unless they do plan to bring Discovery back and undo their fix. IMO it's more proof that they were just throwing everything at the wall to see if something stuck and aren't actually going to follow through with most, if any of the series they announced.

[clearspira]

I liked the wormhole effects. In a series where the design decisions have largely made me roll my eyes, the effects of the wormhole and using the same effect as TMP when Discovery started going through were pretty good.

I was half waiting for Spock to look directly at the camera when he said that every should be ordered to never talk about Discovery or her crew ever again. To let us know it's all perfectly corrected now, according to the writers. So now we have to assume that the TOS era is full of Discovery Truthers, that there was a ship that went to the future and there's a big conspiracy to cover it up.

Number One referring to herself as such was a funny idea that failed completely in execution. It makes it sound like that's actually her name. It would have worked better if the scene in just as she was finishing saying her name and then "Rank: Commander, First Officer of the USS Enterprise".

So with Georgiou in the future supposedly the Section 31 series would take place between the events of Will You Take My Hand and Point of Light. Unless they do plan to bring Discovery back and undo their fix. IMO it's more proof that they were just throwing everything at the wall to see if something stuck and aren't actually going to follow through with most, if any of the series they announced.

Number One should have been used like Picard uses it - occasionally he'll affectionately call him that, but most of the time its, ''Commander'' or ''Riker''. The only time Riker has ever called himself that was when taking the piss out of Picard in ''Pegasus''. Which also speaks to how good a captain season 3 and beyond Picard is: he doesn't mind a little bit of teasing and a little bit of fraternisation, just as long as you remember that when shit goes down, he is the boss. Colonel O'Neill is a lot like that too.

If my ''hiring a fan'' theory is even somewhat correct (or they've been watching Youtube vids), SOMEWHERE someone has pointed out that no one wants to watch a series starring Space Hitler. I cannot fathom how it crossed their mind that we would and the only thing I can think of is that they seriously believed that she was such an awesome character that people would look past her crimes as many people did with Dukat. The difference though is that he is layered, as Chuck detailed in his video on him. Georgiou is one step removed from Ming the Merciless.
Not even fans of the show want to watch it.

[Actarus]

Number One didn't have any other name in "The Cage." They have decided to keep that oddity and joke about it. I'm sure that some fans would have complained anyway if they did give her a name. Damned if you, damned if you don't, as they say...

[clearspira]

Number One didn't have any other name in "The Cage." They have decided to keep that oddity and joke about it. I'm sure that some fans would have complained anyway if they did give her a name. Damned if you, damned if you don't, as they say...

You're not wrong. I wonder though if they had gone slightly meta and called her ''Barrett'' whether anyone would moan. Nice way to honour Star Trek's first woman bridge officer imo and it is very hard to say that she wasn't shafted by the execs. Competent officer wearing trousers to slightly soppy fanservice nurse isn't really a step up.