An Objective and Factually Accurate Assesment of 45's Presidential Administration

[Yukaphile]

The simple, objective fact is that Trump's not the best, I think even people who like him can agree to that, but he's definitely not the worst.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The simple, objective fact is that Trump's not the best, I think even people who like him can agree to that,

Doubt it.

[Yukaphile]

Their favorite is Reagan.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

The simple, objective fact is that Trump's not the best, I think even people who like him can agree to that, but he's definitely not the worst.

Yuka, who do you think is worse than him?

[Yukaphile]

Andrew Jackson. Or possibly George Bush. He turned a surplus into a recession.

[clearspira]

Andrew Jackson. Or possibly George Bush. He turned a surplus into a recession.

Yeah, Andrew Jackson would be a very good bet. James Buchanan would be my choice: the man who refused both to challenge the spread of slavery or to try and stop the secessionist states.
Nothing Trump has done compares to either of these men.

[SabreMau]

Their favorite is Reagan.

And/or Silent Cal.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's widely understood that the guy who used Congress to elicit the trail of tears is the worst president in history.

[TGLS]

It's widely understood that the guy who used Congress to elicit the trail of tears is the worst president in history.

No, Buchanan is still worse. The key difference is that Buchanan was basically inept at resolving the problems that faced him, while Jackson was highly effective when it came to causing problems. Jackson was at least popular at the time too. Though I suppose you could blame Jackson for appointing Buchanan to positions that helped him build a profile before becoming president.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's widely understood that the guy who used Congress to elicit the trail of tears is the worst president in history.

No, Buchanan is still worse. The key difference is that Buchanan was basically inept at resolving the problems that faced him, while Jackson was highly effective when it came to causing problems. Jackson was at least popular at the time too. Though I suppose you could blame Jackson for appointing Buchanan to positions that helped him build a profile before becoming president.

Mmm, I'm not buying it. I get where you're coming from, but when people say worst, they don't mean incompetent. Popularity doesn't really help matters in retrospect either.

Buchanan voted against going to war. I'm aware of the phrase "the only thing evil needs to prevail is good men doing nothing," but that has more to do with people that come off as blinding themselves to the issue.

And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of people that will assert that Buchanon is complicit and contemptible with all that being said. But his inability to progress the union doesn't make him worse than the person who dislocated people of other nations off their land through literally dire conditions into disparate regions that weren't viable to settlers.