‘Star Trek’: Nickelodeon Near Deal For Kids Animated Series

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God, I hate giving Star Trek the Star Wars treatment, dumbing it down for people outside nerds and die-hard fanboys... yes, The Voyage Home proved there was a larger appeal outside the traditional audience, but at the same time, the subsequent works, those widely regarded as successes, didn't stray from their roots that far. Voyager and Enterprise, however, did, and tend to be widely disregarded. So why is STD and the reboot films so polarizing? Simple. It made Trek "fun" in a "not boring and stiff" way. They removed the soul from the franchise, and it's going to just keep on going until it's as hollow sci-fi action as Star Wars has become... to a completely new, mind-numbed generation of "fans..."
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The pitch sounds more like typical Trek than Star Trek: Lower Decks. Not to jinx it, but it seems perfectly fine and really the worst case scenario is that this show turns out to be just some bogus, non-canon cruft like Stargate: Infinity. If it's better than that, then yes, that will meet most thresholds for achieving something in YA programming.
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This show probably has the best chances of being some real worldbuilding in Trek that we've had for a while, if they take it seriously.
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What's distressing to me is... this seems to be the same effect going into modern-day Trek. Give it more "mass appeal," ie the dumbing down to idiots, and in this case, to children. Why would children care about stuffy science and dry political issues? George Lucas found that out in the prequels!
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:45 pm What's distressing to me is... this seems to be the same effect going into modern-day Trek. Give it more "mass appeal," ie the dumbing down to idiots, and in this case, to children. Why would children care about stuffy science and dry political issues? George Lucas found that out in the prequels!
Politics as most people think off it is not essential to every Trek story.
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But to exclude it completely is stupid, period. Every Trek show and film franchise has understood that.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:19 pm But to exclude it completely is stupid, period. Every Trek show and film franchise has understood that.
Why would it be stupid? Is there something wrong with a Trek story or series most regularly news reading people think is apolitical?
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pilight wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:48 pm https://deadline.com/2019/04/star-trek- ... 202601107/
It follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship and use it to search for adventure, meaning and salvation
It sounds like they're trying to do more than "I would have assimilated the Earth, if it weren't for those meddling kids." Kurtzman's only work I've liked was "Transformers: Prime," so I'm not going to assume the worst (for once).
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Sounds good, but is probably like the rest of Trek these days, hollow, shallow fun. Nothing deep or complex.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:45 pm Why would children care about stuffy science and dry political issues?
Kids love science, especially young kids. They haven't had it hammered into their skulls by adults who had lousy educations that it's "hard" or "boring and stuffy" yet. Asking questions and learning how things work is fun. Discovering new things is scary, in an exciting way. Anything that keeps that spark going a little longer for kids is a good thing, and Star Trek is a great vehicle for it.
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