Youtuber Sargon of Akkad declares his intention to run as an MEP

[Draco Dracul]

I mean you are also refusing to do the research and basically asking unknownsample to do the research for you side, the defence of Carl Benjamin.

As far as I am aware, unknownsample is the one who makes a statement and is thus in the position that he has to proove his point, when being confronted. Basic Discussion Etiquette 101. Come on.

What do I have to prove? Either he said it or he didn't, I have backed up my claim by linking to a news story. Clearspira going on about context is deflection from what Benjamin.

You can make anyone sound like a bigot if you take a comment out of context. That's why.

And if it's your claim that context changes the statement, you are making a positive claim and need to provide evidence.

[AlucardNoir]

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

[Draco Dracul]

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

I think you've got me confused with clearspira. Because all I did was point out combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table attempt to "combat [an augment from authority] without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table".

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

So what was the context then?

You ask that like I know. Thing is though, you don't either. That's the point.

No that's a pathetic answer, the only context we need to know is that Carl Benjamin is an edgelord with the mentality of a 14 year old, who appeals to people who think their smarter than everyone else but don't have a clue what their talking about.

And your refusal to investigate any further isnt pathetic either?

I mean you are also refusing to do the research and basically asking unknownsample to do the research for you side, the defence of Carl Benjamin.

Well done, you are at best as bad as you think he is.

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

Well congratulations, you're just as bad as the rest of them now.

[unknownsample]

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

I think you've got me confused with clearspira. Because all I did was point out combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table attempt to "combat [an augment from authority] without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table".

Also I pointed out what he said and Clearspira and others blathered about context.

[clearspira]

I mean you are also refusing to do the research and basically asking unknownsample to do the research for you side, the defence of Carl Benjamin.

As far as I am aware, unknownsample is the one who makes a statement and is thus in the position that he has to proove his point, when being confronted. Basic Discussion Etiquette 101. Come on.

What do I have to prove? Either he said it or he didn't, I have backed up my claim by linking to a news story. Clearspira going on about context is deflection from what Benjamin.

You can make anyone sound like a bigot if you take a comment out of context. That's why.

And if it's your claim that context changes the statement, you are making a positive claim and need to provide evidence.

Here's how context changes a situation.


youtu.be/_SsccRkLLzU

[Admiral X]

What do I have to prove? Either he said it or he didn't, I have backed up my claim by linking to a news story. Clearspira going on about context is deflection from what Benjamin.

Because the only people who don't think context plays any part in what a person says are the kind of people who think Orwell's stories were instruction manuals instead of warnings.

[clearspira]

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

I think you've got me confused with clearspira. Because all I did was point out combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table attempt to "combat [an augment from authority] without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table".

Also I pointed out what he said and Clearspira and others blathered about context.

Seeing as both I and Sargon knows that people like you will never look beyond what others tell you, he posted the rest of the conversation. It starts at 1.46. This is why you leave behind muh narrative and think critically, especially when the mainstream media is involved.


youtu.be/yzD_AQZE8xU

[AlucardNoir]

No Draco, I wrote exactly what I wanted to write. The UK police that is investigating him is the same UK police that had "Count Dankula" arrested and trialed for a joke.

As for the Daily Mirror..., this is from their article: "The cache of documents also includes a racist pornographic tweet Benjamin posted showing a white woman having sex with three black men, under which he wrote: ‘So this is your sister.’" A Tweet that got him initially banned from twitter only to be reinstated after it was found out his twitter had been hacked. But hey, I guess the people at Twitter didn't do any verification of the hacking claim and just reinstated him because of peer pressure - only to ban him a little wile later.

That article is not journalism. A journalist wouldn't have just published those claims, he would have sought to corroborate that evidence with second and third sources. Glen Owen didn't. What you were asking clearspira to do was Mr. Glen Owen's job for the benefit of unknownsample who posted the link in the first place.

Since that was my first post in this thread, I am extremely curious unknownsample what you think you pointed out and when about what I previously said. You know, since that was my first post on this thread and you never replied to me directly. Congrats on literally making my point for me, again.

Then again, someone who doesn't think context matter and that "Either he said it or he didn't, I have backed up my claim by linking to a news story." is an argument needn't bother.

[unknownsample]

I really don't know why you guys are discussing this. There are very few that can actually vote for him, they're the ones that should be discussing this. As for what he's said and done — when the media portray him as an alt right neo nazi or a far right nazi when he obviously isn't one, the media just can't be trusted.

As for the Draco/unknown debate that's been going on for the last few pages — congrats, you're both morons. One of you took an out of context claim from the media that vilifies Sargon at face value, in an argument from authority kind of way, wile the other tried to combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table. Congrats, you're both at least as vacuous as the start of this thread would have us believe Sargon is.

Sargon may not be the best candidate for the job, but hes definitely the candidate voters like you deserve. He'd represent the likes of you two perfectly.

I think you've got me confused with clearspira. Because all I did was point out combat that without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table attempt to "combat [an augment from authority] without actually bringing anything more than speculation to the table".

Also I pointed out what he said and Clearspira and others blathered about context.

Seeing as both I and Sargon knows that people like you will never look beyond what others tell you, he posted the rest of the conversation. It starts at 1.46. This is why you leave behind muh narrative and think critically, especially when the mainstream media is involved.


youtu.be/yzD_AQZE8xU

You wouldn't know what critcal thinking was if you walked straight into it.