Notice your period is late? That's too late for an abortion in Georgia

[ProfessorDetective]

And then people will panic, thinking we're gonna go extinct. Human beings, man. So predictably stupid. Have been for thousands of years.

Humans. So good at seeing things that just aren't there and assuming that those things want nothing more than to destroy them.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

And then people will panic, thinking we're gonna go extinct. Human beings, man. So predictably stupid. Have been for thousands of years.

Humans. So good at seeing things that just aren't there and assuming that those things want nothing more than to destroy them.

Better yet, look what happen to Species 8472.

[ProfessorDetective]

And then people will panic, thinking we're gonna go extinct. Human beings, man. So predictably stupid. Have been for thousands of years.

Humans. So good at seeing things that just aren't there and assuming that those things want nothing more than to destroy them.

Better yet, look what happen to Species 8472.

Is that a Farscape thing? I haven't seen every sci-fi show, yet.

[Yukaphile]

I can't rightly recall what you mean offhand with the Voyager reference... and keep in mind, I have seen all the three stories where they showed up.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

They are all scared of the humans because of what they did to them in the Borg encounter.

[Yukaphile]

And... they had weapons that could kill them.

[clearspira]

They are all scared of the humans because of what they did to them in the Borg encounter.

Its such bad writing though. ''Oh noes! They have torpedoes that can kill us, and all we have is this armada of Borg Cube and planet destroying ships in which to defend ourselves! And we know that the Federation as a whole does not have access to these torpedoes because we have enough intel on Earth to create a simulation that is so accurate we even know the groundskeeper, but we are still terrified!''

My advice: forget this episode if you want to continue to believe 8472 have balls.

[pilight]

There is no way this will hold up in court. No freaking way.

That's small consolation to the people whose lives are affected in the interim

[Steve]

Steve, given your ideological struggle, I'd like to introduce a hypothetical to you.

You're in a medical facility with a timer bomb about to go off. There are two exits, equidistant from you. To your left is a toddler, strapped into a high chair. To your right is a medical fridge full of viable frozen embryos. You only have time to grab one before booking it for the exit. Which do you choose?

The embryos are potential lives, the toddler is alive, this is a triage situation, so I go for the toddler. Then I hope someone tracks down the mad bomber that destroyed those potential lives for whatever insane or non-existent reason they had, not to mention that they threatened my life and the toddler's.

And if this was intended to represent the issue of an abortion to save the mother's life, I regard that as different since it's not about bodily autonomy vs. the sanctity of life, it's what I said above: a triage situation.

[Yukaphile]

Personally, I've never understood the potential for saving embryos or how a fetus relates to the womb and trying to deny abortions to a woman past "it has potential to be alive," and potential is not the same thing as something that's been fully realized. Hell, let's apply the "Child Hitler" argument here. Suppose you save those embryos (which aren't even alive), or have a fetus carried to term (let's even say over the mother's wishes), and it grows up to be a mad leader who nukes some small city. What then, huh? So yeah, "potential" to be alive means jack, because living beings, by their nature, do some pretty awful stuff. Personally, this is why I think family planning belongs with the family. NO ONE ELSE. Not outsiders. Not the local community. Not friends of the family. Not out-of-touch lawmakers or overzealous religious leaders, but with the mother and father, period. But I am sure Admiral X will bring up something like how the state shouldn't fund it or something. And tbf, while I think family planning is an essential service that should have funding, you can all argue where that financial support comes from. I know Admiral X is a Libertarian, and he probably hates the idea of government funding abortions and family planning, just like my younger Libertarian friend on Discord. Though now I'm curious what your view would be on aborting a rape baby, Steve. To me, I think above all, those close to the poor woman should NOT try and pressure her to carry it to term, let her make her own choice. And then, if she wants to abort it, terminate the sucker. Life conceived in suffering is just so vile and repugnant it turns my stomach. You have no idea what it's like for a woman to look on a baby she gave birth to that came from rape... she will always remember. And look on it as a symbol from him, that sickening creature...