One of the reasons I asked this question is because of a scene in The Last Jedi when Luke goes to teach Rey her first lesson on why the Jedi need to end in which Luke briefly rants about how the Jedi, quote, "At the Height of their powers they allowed Darth Sidious to rise to power, create the Empire and wipe them out."
To go over to Avengers: Endgame for a moment there are a number of scenes in that film that can be called fan serves or pandering and I do agree with that assessment but truth be told, I LOVED most, if not all of those moments. I LOVED Cap wielding Thor's Hammer, I LOVED that Tony's Last Words were I Am Iron Man, I LOVED how Tony, Steve and Thor all got the chance to say goodbye to their loved ones via Time Travel. And yes, I also LOVED the female Avengers Team Up bit. This is Pandering but I enjoyed it because it was coming from a good place and it helped that I found all these moments to be satisfying.
But the bit with Luke saying how the Jedi "Let" Palpatine take over bugs me because it seems to be a way to pander to the people who hate the Prequels. It's like Rian Johnson was using Luke as a way to vindicate what many people who dislike those films by going, "See, Even Luke thinks the Jedi were dumb so you can now use this to stick to anyone who tries to defend those terrible films."
This, for me, is pandering done wrong because it's encouraging the fandom to indulge in their negative emotions to, corny as this sounds, to let the hate flow threw them and use this moment to continue that hate.
And what really bugs me is that I do not agree with this assessment of the Prequels because the Jedi DIDN'T just let Sidious take over the Republic as they Were trying to actively stop him but ended up falling into his trap. The way Luke talks about this moment makes it sound like the Jedi Knew of Sidious' plot and didn't try to stop him when they were completely in the dark and Sidious was using his political skills to manipulate the Republic to give him as much power as possible.
The reason I love the the female Avengers team up moment is because, A) It's Awesome. You have a tone of great kick@$$ characters fighting side by side to help save the galaxy. And B) The Woman are NEVER condescending to their male counterparts so it creates this atmosphere of genuine respect and camaraderie that is just as effective, for me, as the moment when the Avengers Originally assembled back in 2012.
This moment is meant as a awesome action scene and EVERYONE in the theater I was in cheered at this moment just as much as when Sam said, on your left or when Steve Hit Thanos with Thor's Hammer.
But this moment with Luke, it just feels forced and, again for me, comes off like Johnson just giving the people who dislike the Prequels what they want to hear.
But that's just how I see it, what about you guys, how do you see this moment with Luke in TLJ. And as always Please keep comments polite and civil, we're all friends here.
