Are the Politics in the Star Wars Prequels Really That Bad?

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Mecha82 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:41 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:19 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pm True, but in Legends, the Jedi were arrogant idiots who didn't hunt down the last Sith. Seriously, they could have put a stop to Bane before he even began, but "those people" are "clearly unreliable sources," so they didn't invest any kind of energy into it. When they did, it was way too late.
In 1000 years there can be someone strong enough in the Force who avoids detection anyways. He could learn from the Nighsisters or many other Dark Side traditions.
But then he or she wouldn't had been Sith unlike Darth Bane and his Rule of Two Sith. Sith have they own long history and traditions so not everyone using Dark Side of the Force is Sith.
Their branding is irrelevant as long as they fuck shit up. Also Sith Spirits are always horny for some dark side users.
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@Slash Gallagher No, it was explicitly stated, Bane was the last Sith trained by the old Masters in all the ancient arts, the instruction on what it takes to be a Sith Lord. If they had taken him out, it would have killed them off forever, and all the lore they possessed. Because Bane read up on ancient Sith, he was someone who did his homework, and plunged some of the deepest secrets of the dark side.
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Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:54 pm @Slash Gallagher No, it was explicitly stated, Bane was the last Sith trained by the old Masters in all the ancient arts, the instruction on what it takes to be a Sith Lord. If they had taken him out, it would have killed them off forever, and all the lore they possessed. Because Bane read up on ancient Sith, he was someone who did his homework, and plunged some of the deepest secrets of the dark side.
And no one else can discover it?

Mother Talzin was probably as strong as a top 10 Jedi. Not all time, just her era.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:45 am
FaxModem1 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
Relative peace for 1000 years is pretty amazing.

They had that actually.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Judici ... es/Legends
And the article even mentions that they were a pale shadow of what they used to be. Crime syndicates thrived, and the Senate favored using the Jedi over them.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 5:25 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:54 pm @Slash Gallagher No, it was explicitly stated, Bane was the last Sith trained by the old Masters in all the ancient arts, the instruction on what it takes to be a Sith Lord. If they had taken him out, it would have killed them off forever, and all the lore they possessed. Because Bane read up on ancient Sith, he was someone who did his homework, and plunged some of the deepest secrets of the dark side.
And no one else can discover it?

Mother Talzin was probably as strong as a top 10 Jedi. Not all time, just her era.
I am not sure if you missed important part in what Yukaphile wrote. He did mention that Darth Bane was trained by old Sith Masters so he knew far more about Dark Side and how to use it than anyone could just by reading ancient Sith writings and using Sith Holocrons. That is why if he had been killed there wouldn't had been no more Sith.
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True. There would have been dark siders, but not legitimate Sith who had carried the line over hundreds of generations, that dated all the way back to the first schism and the fallen Jedi who retreated to Korriban. Of course, Bane only existed because the Jedi, in their infinite wisdom, kept around a Sith Holocron in the Temple that allowed a rogue Jedi Master to use it to build the foundation for a new movement, over a thousand years before Bane. Prior to that, the Sith indeed were gone. It reminds me of "Gambit" from TNG, where Picard even admits as fascinating as history is, some things are so dangerous, they should be destroyed, and that it's best left in the past.
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Yukaphile wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 8:06 am True. There would have been dark siders, but not legitimate Sith who had carried the line over hundreds of generations, that dated all the way back to the first schism and the fallen Jedi who retreated to Korriban. Of course, Bane only existed because the Jedi, in their infinite wisdom, kept around a Sith Holocron in the Temple that allowed a rogue Jedi Master to use it to build the foundation for a new movement, over a thousand years before Bane. Prior to that, the Sith indeed were gone. It reminds me of "Gambit" from TNG, where Picard even admits as fascinating as history is, some things are so dangerous, they should be destroyed, and that it's best left in the past.
Star Wars is not Star Trek.

You art to hung up on the branding., Thrawn with mediocre dark side Force skills could wreck the Republic.
Mecha82 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 9:48 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 5:25 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:54 pm @Slash Gallagher No, it was explicitly stated, Bane was the last Sith trained by the old Masters in all the ancient arts, the instruction on what it takes to be a Sith Lord. If they had taken him out, it would have killed them off forever, and all the lore they possessed. Because Bane read up on ancient Sith, he was someone who did his homework, and plunged some of the deepest secrets of the dark side.
And no one else can discover it?

Mother Talzin was probably as strong as a top 10 Jedi. Not all time, just her era.
I am not sure if you missed important part in what Yukaphile wrote. He did mention that Darth Bane was trained by old Sith Masters so he knew far more about Dark Side and how to use it than anyone could just by reading ancient Sith writings and using Sith Holocrons. That is why if he had been killed there wouldn't had been no more Sith.
There were Tombs and ancient Sith spirits everywhere...
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