Avengers: Endgame

[Draco Dracul]

What politics were even IN "Captain Marvel"???

Mostly that refugees are people too, not some evil force determined to undermine and destroy us. Which should be apolitical, but isn't because the world sucks.

[Yukaphile]

Mostly because white people and even a few brown people are deathly terrified of non-white people "flooding" the country with their "inferior culture" that's gonna contaminate us - bringing drugs, rape, abuse, and all "their" problems we shouldn't deal with. I know, I talk to people who think like this, and it's sick. They don't vote Trump, but they do closely align with him on this core issue.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

What part of the movie is an allegory for immigration embracement?

[CmdrKing]

Not embracing necessarily, but an argument for compassion, helping the displaced find new homes as a matter of principle, and that very often we assume those who look like us are the good guys when they are actually the aggressors and colonizers.
Unless you just missed the dialog, in which case the Skrull, like literally their entire plot.

The movie also has an extreme subtext of “don’t ask don’t tell was bullshit and hurt good people who didn’t deserve it”. See video for details there, she tells it better than I can.
https://youtu.be/6SJ1q2nq8Xw

[clearspira]

The movie also has an extreme subtext of “don’t ask don’t tell was bullshit and hurt good people who didn’t deserve it”. See video for details there, she tells it better than I can.
https://youtu.be/6SJ1q2nq8Xw

It does make me laugh when people come forth years after something is no longer relevant with a ''THIS WAS TERRIBLE AND HERE IS MY FILM TELLING YOU WHY.''

Yeah, we know. That's why we repealed it. Well done. Here's your pat on the back.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I don't think it's necessarily likely that they would all be in the same place in the moments following Marvel's arrival.

Alright, you got me there. I still liked it and I don't think it pushed plausibility that much more than...well a lot of things in Infinity War and Endgame.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I don't think it's necessarily likely that they would all be in the same place in the moments following Marvel's arrival.

Alright, you got me there. I still liked it and I don't think it pushed plausibility that much more than...well a lot of things in Infinity War and Endgame.

Oh, I thought it was of the most evocative things in general.

And just to soften it between hard political contrivance to signature art. On the range of plausibility to implausibility, I'd go with the former.

[Yukaphile]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't checked out any of the MCU movies, but... wasn't Thanos basically meta-commentary (done better than Star Wars, imo) on the dangers of population growth, by creating a villain that was like if Zamasu had been executed more skillfully?

[CmdrKing]

Not... exactly.
Thanos' justification within the narrative is indeed "delete half the universe to prevent overpopulation and resource drain", but the film has no interest in actually exploring the issue beyond that, because that's just what he chooses to believe to consider himself the hero of the universe. Importantly, in Endgame the Present Thanos' only actions after killing the universe is to erase the Stones and cement his win, because that's all that actually matters to him: proving he was right. when the past Thanos learns the heroes will probably be able to reform the Gauntlet and undo his work, he amends his plans: destroy everything and recreate a universe in which he was always right because no one will know enough to contradict him.

Thanos is the archetypal abusive father. He's always right, his violence towards you is love, and all actions are permissible and moral so long as he's doing them.

Insofar as there's meta-textual reason this is how they portray Thanos, I can only guess that somehow showing that there's only unrestrained ego under even the most driven and "I'm doing this for your own good" patriarch seemed particularly timely in the current world environment. But then... it always is.

I mean maybe all those millions of memes where Thanos adding gems to the Gauntlet was photoshopped to be Disney acquiring Fox were the actual answer all along but I don't really see enough other hand-biting bits in the movie to think that's something they did on purpose.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Not embracing necessarily, but an argument for compassion, helping the displaced find new homes as a matter of principle, and that very often we assume those who look like us are the good guys when they are actually the aggressors and colonizers.
Unless you just missed the dialog, in which case the Skrull, like literally their entire plot.

The movie also has an extreme subtext of “don’t ask don’t tell was bullshit and hurt good people who didn’t deserve it”. See video for details there, she tells it better than I can.
https://youtu.be/6SJ1q2nq8Xw

Oh. I didn't know that people here were specifically talking about the CM movie.

So, with the skrulls, yeah that's a cute metaphor.

.. With that second one... If that was supposed to be a queer friendly message then it seems a bit like queer baiting from what I remember of the military gals' scenes. Looking forward to video though and I will see.