Re: Mississippi, abortion, the worrisome future of women's health

[Yukaphile]

Socialist, Libertarian, center righters... yeah. I'm not perfect. I can be judgmental. But at the same time, most who get to know me understand that's just because I care, and feel helpless to do anything, and I see the good in them even if I disagree with their political positions. It's not just talking politics. It's other stuff.

[Mecha82]

I guess based on some twisted logic that some people have so me how having empathy makes one bad person and that everyone needs to be selfish and self centered like them.

[Admiral X]

I suppose like the Libertarian I know on Discord, you will deny that this is being fueled by misogyny?

Yeah. Much like you and most pro-abortion types, the majority of them are coming from a sense of morality and an emotional knee-jerk reaction because of it. To them, you are murdering a baby, straight up, and what makes it worse is the casual attitude being taken toward it - it's essentially an innocent life being taken because it is inconvenient. The other aspect comes from a sense of personal responsibility. They see it as taking an action, and then refusing to accept personal responsibility for that action, which goes back to the first thing about taking a life simply because it is an inconvenience.

To me, what separates pro-life from anti-choice are those who want to create a happy world for the child they are forcing into existence.

Let's just call it what it is and call it pro- and anti-legalized abortion.

And while I have my own opinions on abortion, I would never presume to force someone else to live their life the way I want it.

Yeah, same here. That's why I tend to get really upset when others presume to tell me how to live.

[Yukaphile]

And you just ignore the misogyny. Especially from these religious right-wingers who are pushing this who say stuff like how a female breadwinner is unnatural, and subscribe to that old-school religious view that women are put on this Earth to serve men. Also, you never addressed those Republican politicians and their claims. Very nice.

[Admiral X]

And you just ignore the misogyny.

No, it's just that unlike you I don't pretend that's all there is to it, or that this type of person is representative of all Republicans.

[Yukaphile]

That's where I divide pro-life between anti-choice.

[Mecha82]

I can't help but to see it so that those that claim to be pro-life are actually anti-choice and they only call themselves pro-life to make themselves seem better than they are. After all these are people that don't care about others as long as they can force they sick beliefs on others while happily destroying abortion clinics and assassinate doctors that have been doing abortions. So much for being pro-life.

[Yukaphile]

Yeah, there is that too. They only say they are "pro-life" because they want to make themselves seem nobler than they are, when it really is about controlling women.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

[Yukaphile]

I mean, I'm talking strictly those in the hierarchy of power. Most of them are just rabid hypocrites and misogynists. On the average ground level, among most voters who have no political clout, that changes.