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Antiboyscout wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:34 pm
clearspira wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 8:09 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 5:49 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 2:43 pm I see that as being millennia away, not centuries.
Nobody sees that far. Deal with it.
You can make bloody accurate guesses made on trends though. And the current trend is that we as a society are growing more and more fragmented than we were twenty years ago. Back in the 1990s after the fall of the Wall and before 9/11, I would have bought the Star Trek future being on track perhaps. But now? I think that optimism is dead.
The falling of the was the beginning of the end. The unifying enemy was gone, and the world just coasted for years until the US finally woke up and realized that they were shouldering a burden for no benefit.

The world is not meant to be united. It took great effort by the US to make it happen. Bretton Woods is the reason humanity has advanced so much so quickly, and it is also the reason a bunch of new powers have risen up to challenge the US.
Ah yes, arrogance of Americans of thinking that they are better than rest of world. There is no this burden that you are talking about. Just US protecting it's own interests and interests of it's rich elite and interests of large corporations globally with it's military might while selling weapons and creating more problems for themselves and rest of world.

Let me remind you that those that those islamic extremists that right wing in US is so happy to paint every Muslim to be become powerful because of US wanting to use to them to fight "Godless Communists" before angering them with Operation Desert Storm. Yes, it was US that gave them means to become powerful entity in Middle East.
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It can correct faulty genetics, like mental illness, and so on.
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Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 12:21 am Ah yes, arrogance of Americans of thinking that they are better than rest of world. There is no this burden that you are talking about. Just US protecting it's own interests and interests of it's rich elite and interests of large corporations globally with it's military might while selling weapons and creating more problems for themselves and rest of world.

Let me remind you that those that those islamic extremists that right wing in US is so happy to paint every Muslim to be become powerful because of US wanting to use to them to fight "Godless Communists" before angering them with Operation Desert Storm. Yes, it was US that gave them means to become powerful entity in Middle East.
Not better just more powerful and more stable. All it would take is the US to announce that the US navy will only protect US ships to cause the entire world economy to collapse.

You ever notice that most countries have protections for local food production? That's because it's the direct cost for the US to keep everyone on board. Our markets are open. Theirs not so much.

We also propped up the entirety of Western Europe to fight the "Godless Communists" They decided to form the EU and attempt to take over the world economy from the US.
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Except the red states, of course. Well, some of them. Texas is quite powerful economically. That's just a fact. Others, less so.
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Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 12:21 am
Antiboyscout wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:34 pm
clearspira wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 8:09 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 5:49 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 2:43 pm I see that as being millennia away, not centuries.
Nobody sees that far. Deal with it.
You can make bloody accurate guesses made on trends though. And the current trend is that we as a society are growing more and more fragmented than we were twenty years ago. Back in the 1990s after the fall of the Wall and before 9/11, I would have bought the Star Trek future being on track perhaps. But now? I think that optimism is dead.
The falling of the was the beginning of the end. The unifying enemy was gone, and the world just coasted for years until the US finally woke up and realized that they were shouldering a burden for no benefit.

The world is not meant to be united. It took great effort by the US to make it happen. Bretton Woods is the reason humanity has advanced so much so quickly, and it is also the reason a bunch of new powers have risen up to challenge the US.
Ah yes, arrogance of Americans of thinking that they are better than rest of world. There is no this burden that you are talking about. Just US protecting it's own interests and interests of it's rich elite and interests of large corporations globally with it's military might while selling weapons and creating more problems for themselves and rest of world.

Let me remind you that those that those islamic extremists that right wing in US is so happy to paint every Muslim to be become powerful because of US wanting to use to them to fight "Godless Communists" before angering them with Operation Desert Storm. Yes, it was US that gave them means to become powerful entity in Middle East.
The communists were a unifying enemy for the entire of Europe too. The more you know.
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No shocker, given how they treated their enemies simply because they were facing problems back home and found a convenient way to make up for their own issues. Of course, you can be a Communist or Socialist without being a tankie. That's the key difference.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:41 am No shocker, given how they treated their enemies simply because they were facing problems back home and found a convenient way to make up for their own issues. Of course, you can be a Communist or Socialist without being a tankie. That's the key difference.
You make it sound like it's a matter of identity and not government ordained economic structure.
..What mirror universe?
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I am not a tankie. I can sympathize with Communism if there is literally no other option, if capitalism has failed that badly. But I am not a tankie. The Soviets were the worst gang of criminals in human history guilty of horrific crimes rivaling and at times surpassing the Nazis. So yes, you can be a Communist without being a tankie.
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clearspira wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 3:14 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 3:12 pm Oh boo hoo. As long as men conduct themselves honorably in war, I can sympathize with their pain. Even cut them some slack, like with looting. But anything more than that, I lose all sympathy the second they cross that line.
You sound as sympathetic to their pain as a nail through someone's foot tbh.
Are you surprised given his self-loathing?
clearspira wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 8:39 pm I would argue that female on male domestic abuse mostly happens because of 'boys don't hit girls' and everything legal and social that surrounds that. Pound for pound if he hit back then she would be paste.
If it was as simple as yuka reckons then women would have overcome the male advantages centuries before they did.
It plays it's part in a vicious cycle. Most domestic abuse isn't one sex or the other, but seems to be mutual within bad couples that simply shouldn't be together (or anyone else).

It appears the cycle in such couples is one where each pushes the other, violence gets invovled (spalling, pushing, etc) until the man lays the woman out.
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