AOC Calls Democrats Sea Sponges

[Admiral X]

Well, if you don't trust the FBI stats, that's up to you, I guess.

[Yukaphile]

Under President Right-Winger? Yeah, no thanks. I've seen statistics from the left that points out all the other things people die less from than guns.

[Darth Wedgius]

It's the truth. My Socialist friend in Peru has said he's too conservative, and he is, on guns, on a host of other issues. You want the proof? Clinton was pure centrist, and he voted the same way she did 93% of the time.

As in he want to ban or doesn't want to ban guns?

Banning guns is considered a leftist position

as for not banning guns, communist revolutionaries that want to ban guns are f*cking dumb. How are you supposed to have your revolution without guns?

Maybe because they aren't communist revolutionaries? My country went trough civil war with one side being communists. After that it was social democrats that changed things better by working withing system while there was bad blood before Winter War that united people as one to fight common enemy.

When the "Democratic Socialists" of America start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage and the privatization of the pension system, I'll start listening.

Wait though, as undisputedly left-wing people, why would they do that?

Sweden is the gold standard for successful "democratic socialism" and they have no minimum wage and a privatized pension system, plus other things like a tax system that burdens the middle class and private individuals over corporations.

As opposed to USA were rich get tax cuts for cost of regular Americans that don't even have access to basic things like healthcare because everything is so privatized and large corporations that alongside with richest 1% own your politicians need to profit from it. Those taxes that those of us in Nordic Countries have to pay are used to benefit people by providing government funded services. Including proper education for our children as well as option for public healthcare.

Regular Americans do have access to health care. Is there another USA somewhere? We're woefully ignorant of geography, you know.

Thing is in USA healthcare costs lot of money and requires having insurance from one of many insurance companies because hospitals are purely privately owned as well as only option meaning that those that don't have money for those can't have healthcare at all. Or not enough to pay hospital bills and be able to have money for living. While that alone doesn't effect it no wonder USA has lot of homeless people.

We in Finland in other hand have both private healthcare as well as provincial healthcare that's cheaper because it's funded with tax money making sure that anyone can have healthcare when they need it while having option to choose between those two.

Then again while our politicians are no means unselfish either at least they aren't owned by those with money and working for those people unlike politicians in US.

Healthcare in the US can cost a lot of money, but regular people do have access to healthcare. And emergency rooms have a duty to treat anyone who comes in. So those without money do have access to healthcare.

[Darth Wedgius]

It's the truth. My Socialist friend in Peru has said he's too conservative, and he is, on guns, on a host of other issues. You want the proof? Clinton was pure centrist, and he voted the same way she did 93% of the time.

As in he want to ban or doesn't want to ban guns?

Banning guns is considered a leftist position

as for not banning guns, communist revolutionaries that want to ban guns are f*cking dumb. How are you supposed to have your revolution without guns?

Maybe because they aren't communist revolutionaries? My country went trough civil war with one side being communists. After that it was social democrats that changed things better by working withing system while there was bad blood before Winter War that united people as one to fight common enemy.

When the "Democratic Socialists" of America start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage and the privatization of the pension system, I'll start listening.

Wait though, as undisputedly left-wing people, why would they do that?

Sweden is the gold standard for successful "democratic socialism" and they have no minimum wage and a privatized pension system, plus other things like a tax system that burdens the middle class and private individuals over corporations.

As opposed to USA were rich get tax cuts for cost of regular Americans that don't even have access to basic things like healthcare because everything is so privatized and large corporations that alongside with richest 1% own your politicians need to profit from it. Those taxes that those of us in Nordic Countries have to pay are used to benefit people by providing government funded services. Including proper education for our children as well as option for public healthcare.

Regular Americans do have access to health care. Is there another USA somewhere? We're woefully ignorant of geography, you know.

Plenty of Americans die because they lack healthcare.

Which doesn't change the fact that regular Americans have access to healthcare.

[Karha of Honor]

Under President Right-Winger? Yeah, no thanks. I've seen statistics from the left that points out all the other things people die less from than guns.

Trump is a shithead. He would have gone over to your side if a bunch celebs and musicians embraced him.

He is not a right winger.

[Mecha82]

A gun was made with the intent to fire a bullet. I can use a fire extinguisher to kill as well. It's the intent of the user, not the tool that counts.

Modern guns are be used for more easily killing more people while killing one person with fire extinguisher is more difficult than that. You can easily stop some one who tries to kill you with fire extinguisher but you can't stop some one who tries to kill you with gun.

[Karha of Honor]

A gun was made with the intent to fire a bullet. I can use a fire extinguisher to kill as well. It's the intent of the user, not the tool that counts.

Modern guns are be used for more easily killing more people while killing one person with fire extinguisher is more difficult than that. You can easily stop some one who tries to kill you with fire extinguisher but you can't stop some one who tries to kill you with gun.

Most people can't shoot for shit under stress and one bullet usually does not kill a person...

[ProfessorDetective]

It's the truth. My Socialist friend in Peru has said he's too conservative, and he is, on guns, on a host of other issues. You want the proof? Clinton was pure centrist, and he voted the same way she did 93% of the time.

As in he want to ban or doesn't want to ban guns?

Banning guns is considered a leftist position

as for not banning guns, communist revolutionaries that want to ban guns are f*cking dumb. How are you supposed to have your revolution without guns?

Maybe because they aren't communist revolutionaries? My country went trough civil war with one side being communists. After that it was social democrats that changed things better by working withing system while there was bad blood before Winter War that united people as one to fight common enemy.

When the "Democratic Socialists" of America start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage and the privatization of the pension system, I'll start listening.

Wait though, as undisputedly left-wing people, why would they do that?

Sweden is the gold standard for successful "democratic socialism" and they have no minimum wage and a privatized pension system, plus other things like a tax system that burdens the middle class and private individuals over corporations.

As opposed to USA were rich get tax cuts for cost of regular Americans that don't even have access to basic things like healthcare because everything is so privatized and large corporations that alongside with richest 1% own your politicians need to profit from it. Those taxes that those of us in Nordic Countries have to pay are used to benefit people by providing government funded services. Including proper education for our children as well as option for public healthcare.

Regular Americans do have access to health care. Is there another USA somewhere? We're woefully ignorant of geography, you know.

Thing is in USA healthcare costs lot of money and requires having insurance from one of many insurance companies because hospitals are purely privately owned as well as only option meaning that those that don't have money for those can't have healthcare at all. Or not enough to pay hospital bills and be able to have money for living. While that alone doesn't effect it no wonder USA has lot of homeless people.

We in Finland in other hand have both private healthcare as well as provincial healthcare that's cheaper because it's funded with tax money making sure that anyone can have healthcare when they need it while having option to choose between those two.

Then again while our politicians are no means unselfish either at least they aren't owned by those with money and working for those people unlike politicians in US.

Healthcare in the US can cost a lot of money, but regular people do have access to healthcare. And emergency rooms have a duty to treat anyone who comes in. So those without money do have access to healthcare.

And after they're patched up. 'Sir, we have saved your life... only to ruin it. Enjoy paying off this $5k-$10k medical bill!'

[Darth Wedgius]

It's the truth. My Socialist friend in Peru has said he's too conservative, and he is, on guns, on a host of other issues. You want the proof? Clinton was pure centrist, and he voted the same way she did 93% of the time.

As in he want to ban or doesn't want to ban guns?

Banning guns is considered a leftist position

as for not banning guns, communist revolutionaries that want to ban guns are f*cking dumb. How are you supposed to have your revolution without guns?

Maybe because they aren't communist revolutionaries? My country went trough civil war with one side being communists. After that it was social democrats that changed things better by working withing system while there was bad blood before Winter War that united people as one to fight common enemy.

When the "Democratic Socialists" of America start advocating the elimination of the minimum wage and the privatization of the pension system, I'll start listening.

Wait though, as undisputedly left-wing people, why would they do that?

Sweden is the gold standard for successful "democratic socialism" and they have no minimum wage and a privatized pension system, plus other things like a tax system that burdens the middle class and private individuals over corporations.

As opposed to USA were rich get tax cuts for cost of regular Americans that don't even have access to basic things like healthcare because everything is so privatized and large corporations that alongside with richest 1% own your politicians need to profit from it. Those taxes that those of us in Nordic Countries have to pay are used to benefit people by providing government funded services. Including proper education for our children as well as option for public healthcare.

Regular Americans do have access to health care. Is there another USA somewhere? We're woefully ignorant of geography, you know.

Thing is in USA healthcare costs lot of money and requires having insurance from one of many insurance companies because hospitals are purely privately owned as well as only option meaning that those that don't have money for those can't have healthcare at all. Or not enough to pay hospital bills and be able to have money for living. While that alone doesn't effect it no wonder USA has lot of homeless people.

We in Finland in other hand have both private healthcare as well as provincial healthcare that's cheaper because it's funded with tax money making sure that anyone can have healthcare when they need it while having option to choose between those two.

Then again while our politicians are no means unselfish either at least they aren't owned by those with money and working for those people unlike politicians in US.

Healthcare in the US can cost a lot of money, but regular people do have access to healthcare. And emergency rooms have a duty to treat anyone who comes in. So those without money do have access to healthcare.

And after they're patched up. 'Sir, we have saved your life... only to ruin it. Enjoy paying off this $5k-$10k medical bill!'

It could be. Or it could be less, or even more. There is also Medicaid, of course.

[Yukaphile]

@Slash Gallagher False. He's flip-flopped on both sides of the aisle before. Said you can't deport people against their will, now look what he's doing? He admitted if he'd run, he'd do so as a Republican, and that's the boat he chose. He is fully committed to it. It's why you can't trust him. He's a damned liar in a brazenly open way no politician has ever been before.