Jar Jar Binks: Racism?

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Then there's no issue, because when you take something like the Twins, that was literally conceived of with negative racial stereotypes in minds.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:43 am Then there's no issue, because when you take something like the Twins, that was literally conceived of with negative racial stereotypes in minds.
Perhaps, but I don't see that line of reasoning applying to Jar Jar Binx.
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And I'm not really following who the Twins are, just acknowledging that the supposed satirical inclinations I think you're getting at contextualize things a little, and I don't necessarily see anything satirically appropriate about JB.
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From Revenge of the Fallen.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:59 am From Revenge of the Fallen.
Oh those guys.

They're kinda at odds with progressive awareness concerning stereotypes, but I don't find Michael Bay's schlockiness that problematic.

Binx is a bit more trite.
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They specifically engage in street talk. It's clearly racist.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:33 am They specifically engage in street talk. It's clearly racist.
Yes. Thank you for affirming what I said about it being at odds with progressive awareness.
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Yuka, are you really resting on the logic that since the twins are racist then Jar Jar is not?
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I would say that difference between Jar Jar and Autobot twins is intent. Jar Jar was meant to be comic relief without any clear malice or intent to make him racist with his actor even being behind character while Autobot twins are clearly meant to be racist. Whole "we don't do reading"-line from Autobot twins itself tells what Bay thinks about black people. And yeah those two have names (Mudflap and Skids) but everyone just calls them as Autobot twins.
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^ This times a billion.
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