Madner Kami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:58 am
If you think that Germans are literally a people of poets and thinkers, you only display your terrible understanding of the world. People are the same. Everywhere. Almost nobody will know things outside of their immediate daily life and zone of interest, but will not let that get into the way of having an opinion about everything and assuming that they are right, because nobody thinks of himself as uneducated or flat out stupid, including myself.
Yeah! People are all a bunch of interchangeable cogs in a machine or numbers on a piece of paper. That's why those North African migrants all integrated into Europe so easily...
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:58 am
If you think that Germans are literally a people of poets and thinkers, you only display your terrible understanding of the world. People are the same. Everywhere. Almost nobody will know things outside of their immediate daily life and zone of interest, but will not let that get into the way of having an opinion about everything and assuming that they are right, because nobody thinks of himself as uneducated or flat out stupid, including myself.
Yeah! People are all a bunch of interchangeable cogs in a machine or numbers on a piece of paper. That's why those North African migrants all integrated into Europe so easily...
oh wait...
Q.E.D.
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
To clarify, I literally don't think that at all. People like Beastro are the ones to argue cultural relativism, for me, I just see that as part of different power structures that influence us worldwide, which leads to our differences. And the US power structure is... akin to Ancient Rome. We're decadent, corrupt, absorbed with our own successes, boasting of our military abilities, and so on. There is a lot of parallels.
"A culture's teachings - and more importantly, the nature of its people - achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves, or find themselves lacking."
— Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:21 am
To clarify, I literally don't think that at all. People like Beastro are the ones to argue cultural relativism, for me, I just see that as part of different power structures that influence us worldwide, which leads to our differences. And the US power structure is... akin to Ancient Rome. We're decadent, corrupt, absorbed with our own successes, boasting of our military abilities, and so on. There is a lot of parallels.
Yes. Every superpower, being US, USSR, and Britain's empire where the sun doesn't set...
And I'm not trying to ridicule or anything, but this doesn't say anything as to the culture really. Again, as half a dozen posts before pointed out, there's nothing really distinct between the collective of individuals within each culture. It's just the conservative developments that lead to different economic prosperities. I'm really not sure if you need to find a better parameter from economics that concisely differentiates worldly cultures. Maybe the political structure that makes the US distinct with its state boundaries and capitalistic affinity, but the EU emulates that pretty good.
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:29 am
Yes. Every superpower, being US, USSR, and Britain's empire where the sun doesn't set...
And I'm not trying to ridicule or anything, but this doesn't say anything as to the culture really. Again, as half a dozen posts before pointed out, there's nothing really distinct between the collective of individuals within each culture. It's just the conservative developments that lead to different economic prosperities. I'm really not sure if you need to find a better parameter from economics that concisely differentiates worldly cultures. Maybe the political structure that makes the US distinct with its state boundaries and capitalistic affinity, but the EU emulates that pretty good.
Nothing distinct...
Sure...
Thailand, every third women was a prostitute at some point, distinct from everyone else.
Mainland China, unless you have connections they lock you up for life because you had an illegal gun on you.
The Maoiri and Kalmyks were the same as the Medieval Swedes who also made no big deal about cannibalism...
There is nothing distinct between a Texan and a South Korean...
I can admit to it being more personal for me because it's my home, and that I used to be a strong, unapologetic patriot.
"A culture's teachings - and more importantly, the nature of its people - achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves, or find themselves lacking."
— Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:29 am
Yes. Every superpower, being US, USSR, and Britain's empire where the sun doesn't set...
And I'm not trying to ridicule or anything, but this doesn't say anything as to the culture really. Again, as half a dozen posts before pointed out, there's nothing really distinct between the collective of individuals within each culture. It's just the conservative developments that lead to different economic prosperities. I'm really not sure if you need to find a better parameter from economics that concisely differentiates worldly cultures. Maybe the political structure that makes the US distinct with its state boundaries and capitalistic affinity, but the EU emulates that pretty good.
Nothing distinct...
Sure...
Thailand, every third women was a prostitute at some point, distinct from everyone else.
Mainland China, unless you have connections they lock you up for life because you had an illegal gun on you.
The Maoiri and Kalmyks were the same as the Medieval Swedes who also made no big deal about cannibalism...
There is nothing distinct between a Texan and a South Korean...
Oh yeah there is plenty, like Confuciansim...
What you are talking about?
They will lock you up for having a gun in Britain too. It's called effective gun control...
And bringing up societies from hundreds of years ago is stupid. You are proving nothing.
You start with a comparison of Germany to America/England. Spice it up with some French, etc. Alright, so we're talking about western cultures here stemming from what Yuka said about Germany being an ubermensch society compared to Americans because they have three different forms for the word the.
Then there's the first/second/third world dynamic that was constructed at the onset of the Cold War. Language and culture, yeah can kind of date that development a bit, but the countries for speculation did fit nicely into first world until the USSR was brought up.
