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A RadFem also thinks men can't be abused by women that way, a "man is always eager" bullshit. And will always sneer at men accusing women that way.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:14 pm No real radfem would go within a hundred yards of a forum without militant mods who silence criticism. These people are not interested in debate, in fact, they share many qualities with fundamentalist theists.
I recently chased away at least one person with a similar mindset.

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Frankly speaking, it looks quite like he/she chased you away.

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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:52 pm That only applies to biology. Not intellectually or mentally. Emotionally, men and women are the same.
You base that claim on what exactly? Admittedly it's tricky to separate out from cultural effects and there are always people who are exceptions but I've never seen anything terribly persuasive to tell me that men and women are not different. There's certainly difference in animals, which don't have the same social pressures, and humans are just another species of animal.

I really don't like this "everyone and everything must be the same" attitude (other than for the aspects that are so obvious there's no point in denying them, such as physiology). What's wrong with everyone not being the same?
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Riedquat wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:50 am
Yukaphile wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:52 pm That only applies to biology. Not intellectually or mentally. Emotionally, men and women are the same.
You base that claim on what exactly? Admittedly it's tricky to separate out from cultural effects and there are always people who are exceptions but I've never seen anything terribly persuasive to tell me that men and women are not different. There's certainly difference in animals, which don't have the same social pressures, and humans are just another species of animal.

I really don't like this "everyone and everything must be the same" attitude (other than for the aspects that are so obvious there's no point in denying them, such as physiology). What's wrong with everyone not being the same?
The first paragraph aptly describes how I felt about that statement. Except that is, for the animal thing. Like I've never been able to tell the difference between a male and female dog except for maybe maternity wise for mothers (and like toxic fraternizing behavior between racoon fathers lol), and that's I think more of a circumstance. Anyhoo yeah I feel like the physiological differences are maybe(?) a bit persuasive? Wouldn't known estrogen and testosterone discrepancies be a possible culprit for emotional influence?

With the second paragraph yeah, I'm not entirely clear on the conundrum as I've seen it now and then, but I think with the transgenderism that dynamic of differences but no differences has come off a bit contradictory at parts? Idunno maybe I'll grasp that again later.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:02 am Frankly speaking, it looks quite like he/she chased you away.

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Truematis did not post in almost 20 days since the incident.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:08 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:02 am Frankly speaking, it looks quite like he/she chased you away.

...A thought.
Truematis did not post in almost 20 days since the incident.
That shows confidence in his words.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:15 pm How about this? A RadFem believes every rape accusation, man on woman, no matter how flimsy. While I've had cases before I haven't believed and have gone on record saying so. As for Kavanaugh, while I'm inclined to lean towards "probably" (with a possibility for "probably not"), it's that I divide him into the anti-choice camp that makes me suspect he'd be anti-woman. Of course, what his GOP buddies have said over the years haven't helped. And I'm not naive enough to think there can't be cases where men can't organize trains on a single woman to abuse her that way. History is full of such cases. With that said, though, this is all meaningless outside a courtroom, and if he is guilty, he should be tried. Wouldn't his DNA be on the victim? I know rape kits get thrown out, but you'd think somebody would have tried. All in all, I lean towards, 55% probably, 45% probably not. A RadFem would be 100% "He did it, castrate him!" Then again, I followed that case only from secondhand reports, which can be faulty.
The wiki for radical feminism doesn't say anything about believing every accusation.
Yukaphile wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:16 pm A RadFem also thinks men can't be abused by women that way, a "man is always eager" bullshit. And will always sneer at men accusing women that way.
Also not sure about this per the wiki.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:43 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:08 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:02 am Frankly speaking, it looks quite like he/she chased you away.

...A thought.
Truematis did not post in almost 20 days since the incident.
That shows confidence in his words.
Yeah, right...

Sure...

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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:23 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:43 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:08 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:02 am Frankly speaking, it looks quite like he/she chased you away.

...A thought.
Truematis did not post in almost 20 days since the incident.
That shows confidence in his words.
Yeah, right...

Sure...

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Not that I believe you or condone your actions, but do you have any proof that he left under such circumstance?
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