The Straight Pride Parade

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Re: The Straight Pride Parade

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 amWegius isn't saying that there's no white supremacists behind the initiative. He's saying that it's less like an ISIS recruiting agenda and more like people trolling Shia LaBeouf at his protest.
Except things like trolling Shia LaBeouf are part of an ISIS like recruiting agenda. Because like ISIS, the alt-right operates via a gradual self-radicalization process. In the case of the alt-right going from something like that or gamer gate to fellow travelers like Milo, Sharpiro, or Sargon, to explicitly alt-right channels and sites. "Comedy" like this is literally part of the white supremacist recruiting manual.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:52 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 am Generally speaking using racial slurs against people is something racists do. And it's not even a common insult in context as gorilla are not associated with being fat.
And saying things that could be interpreted as racist is something a lot of people do. Unless you know his intent, you don't know which one he meant.
His intent can be assumed because it's a non-standard insult given the situation unless the racist connotations of insult were meant. You might have a point if it was used to refer to a muscular black man, as gorilla is often used as an insult to musclebound men of perceived low intelligence regardless of race. That is not he case here as gorillas aren't associated with being fat, and there are a plethora of non-racist insults for an ugly woman, pig, dog, hog, whale, etc.
Gorillas aren't fat, but they are bulky, as is Leslie Jones. To my eye, gorillas don't appear like muscular men. I know they've got muscles, but they're covered by hair and you just get bulk.
Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:52 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 am You didn't give evidence that white supremacists originated the idea, and, regardless, the people I saw in favor of that were intending to do exactly what I said. Your dogwhistle argument again assumes that you knew their intention.

Look at AOC flash a white supremacy sign:
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You do realize that context matters, right? Like there is a big difference between a Hindu displaying a swastika and a non-Hindu white person displaying a swastika.
Context matters for your assumptions. I saw a while (probably not Hindu) person in a classroom draw a swastika in front of an entire class. It was a vector force diagram.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:56 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 amWegius isn't saying that there's no white supremacists behind the initiative. He's saying that it's less like an ISIS recruiting agenda and more like people trolling Shia LaBeouf at his protest.
Except things like trolling Shia LaBeouf are part of an ISIS like recruiting agenda. Because like ISIS, the alt-right operates via a gradual self-radicalization process. In the case of the alt-right going from something like that or gamer gate to fellow travelers like Milo, Sharpiro, or Sargon, to explicitly alt-right channels and sites. "Comedy" like this is literally part of the white supremacist recruiting manual.
I can see that.
..What mirror universe?
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Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:56 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 amWegius isn't saying that there's no white supremacists behind the initiative. He's saying that it's less like an ISIS recruiting agenda and more like people trolling Shia LaBeouf at his protest.
Except things like trolling Shia LaBeouf are part of an ISIS like recruiting agenda. Because like ISIS, the alt-right operates via a gradual self-radicalization process. In the case of the alt-right going from something like that or gamer gate to fellow travelers like Milo, Sharpiro, or Sargon, to explicitly alt-right channels and sites. "Comedy" like this is literally part of the white supremacist recruiting manual.
No, it's a protest. But as I am increasingly finding out, people like you think protesting is merely a PR recruiting stunt, and I suppose that's why you do not think Shia's virtue signaling is equally objectionable. He's on the "right side" and you want him to recruit more.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:04 am Image
What's the likelihood that anyone involved in the straight ride parade will be attacked and beaten, and
what's the likelihood these people will retract these statements when they do?
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Antiboyscout wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:20 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:04 am Image
What's the likelihood that anyone involved in the straight ride parade will be attacked and beaten, and
what's the likelihood these people will retract these statements when they do?
Fairly low, and even lower due to such an incident having basically nothing to do with the kind of systemic oppression referenced in the post.
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Well people do start getting politically minded when they feel cornered just on a personal level. And not everybody does the political math in weighing what's happening to them. I don't think they necessarily have to so exclusively.
..What mirror universe?
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Draco Dracul wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:56 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 amWegius isn't saying that there's no white supremacists behind the initiative. He's saying that it's less like an ISIS recruiting agenda and more like people trolling Shia LaBeouf at his protest.
Except things like trolling Shia LaBeouf are part of an ISIS like recruiting agenda. Because like ISIS, the alt-right operates via a gradual self-radicalization process. In the case of the alt-right going from something like that or gamer gate to fellow travelers like Milo, Sharpiro, or Sargon, to explicitly alt-right channels and sites. "Comedy" like this is literally part of the white supremacist recruiting manual.
What is the alt tight?

How many people?

Manifesto?

Core beliefs?

Leading figures?

Books they all read and see as important political texts?
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Similar to Fascism. You know, like Hitler. The neo-Nazis and the KKK would be the core membership. With that said, the leftists can be just as bad. Like tankies.
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