Ronald Reagan Death Day

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Reagan in actual history:
These [SS troops] were the villains, as we know, that conducted the persecutions and all. But there are 2,000 graves there, and most of those, the average age is about 18. I think that there's nothing wrong with visiting that cemetery where those young men are victims of Nazism also, even though they were fighting in the German uniform, drafted into service to carry out the hateful wishes of the Nazis. They were victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps.
Reagan in NPC history:
"Reagan supported Nazis!"
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I thought you were a self proclaimed Sith?
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There is no shortage of Reagan revisionism on both ends of the spectrum. He was considered far right then, he'd be on the moderate side of the GOP today. He spent 1978 campaigning against the Briggs Initiative, a position that would kill his national ambitions in today's Republican party. As president he signed the US on to the Montreal protocol, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, and picked a pro-choice justice for the Supreme Court as his first appointment. None of those things would even be considered by a Republican now.
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I guess the moral is if you need something to celebrate on June 5th celebrate Marshall Plan day. Or Singaporean independence. Or Union victory at Piedmont, Virginia. Or Women's Suffrage in Denmark. Or Tank Man day. So many less controversial options.
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pilight wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:22 pm There is no shortage of Reagan revisionism on both ends of the spectrum. He was considered far right then, he'd be on the moderate side of the GOP today. He spent 1978 campaigning against the Briggs Initiative, a position that would kill his national ambitions in today's Republican party. As president he signed the US on to the Montreal protocol, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, and picked a pro-choice justice for the Supreme Court as his first appointment. None of those things would even be considered by a Republican now.
The cultural atmosphere is radically different.
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Yeah, the right has gotten more extreme and the left has gotten more extreme. At least in terms of political leadership.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:08 pm Reagan in actual history:
These [SS troops] were the villains, as we know, that conducted the persecutions and all. But there are 2,000 graves there, and most of those, the average age is about 18. I think that there's nothing wrong with visiting that cemetery where those young men are victims of Nazism also, even though they were fighting in the German uniform, drafted into service to carry out the hateful wishes of the Nazis. They were victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps.
Reagan in NPC history:
"Reagan supported Nazis!"
...oh my yiffing gods.

Are you really shooting down people by calling them "NPC"s?
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:06 pm
pilight wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:22 pm There is no shortage of Reagan revisionism on both ends of the spectrum. He was considered far right then, he'd be on the moderate side of the GOP today. He spent 1978 campaigning against the Briggs Initiative, a position that would kill his national ambitions in today's Republican party. As president he signed the US on to the Montreal protocol, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, and picked a pro-choice justice for the Supreme Court as his first appointment. None of those things would even be considered by a Republican now.
The cultural atmosphere is radically different.
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TGLS wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:39 pm I guess the moral is if you need something to celebrate on June 5th celebrate Marshall Plan day. Or Singaporean independence. Or Union victory at Piedmont, Virginia. Or Women's Suffrage in Denmark. Or Tank Man day. So many less controversial options.
I like controversy. The man would have laughed on my faggoty grave so I'll be glad to dance on his.
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