Picard series discussion

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I heard the teaser came out a few days ago.

[MrL1992]

I I find it interesting that a certain YouTube channel that normally loves posting recent Trek news and 'rumours', has suddenly lost interest after the teaser came out and got a lot of positive attention. Now they're just concerned with melodramatic headlines for Game of Thrones' final season..

...funny that.

[Yukaphile]

Here's a question. Given how badly they mangled the Klingons in STD/DISCO, how do you think they'll handle them in the Picard series? Tbh, I think they'll try to capture the most superficial elements of the TNG/DS9 era Klingons... but might miss the nuance they had. Like, for example... this is something I think is consistent with the lore. Like Chuck had said, the Khitomer Accords to the Battle of Wolf 359 was their version of the 1990s for the US. A period of relative peace and stability. But for the Klingons, I tend to think, and this isn't confirmed, but not denied either, that K'mpec had ruled for so long, perhaps since the early 24th century, that when he died, it left a power vacuum. And Gowron was a good alternative to traitors like the House of Duras. K'mpec strikes me as a moderate compared to the old infighting plaguing the Klingon Empire of the 23rd century. But do you think those in charge will grasp that kind of complexity? I mean, this requires repeat viewings to get that kind of balanced perspective, and as Chuck noted, the problem is Trek fans, let alone the writers, have their own interpretation on what Trek is and should be. I maintain they gave Klingons two dicks because they looked at two TNG episodes, "Yesterday's Enterprise" and "Ethics," where Worf was sneering at how weak human women could be, and how Dr. Russell said Klingons have redundant systems, perhaps even looking to Voyager episodes like "The Disease" and how "she doesn't have the equipment we need but it all works out in the end in ways you can't imagine," and applied that to STD/DISCO. That would explain how they could ignore that ABC logic in the stuff with Jadzia, Bashir, Worf, and Ezri, which makes this impossible. But now I'm rambling. Point is, what do you guys think?

[Karha of Honor]

Here's a question. Given how badly they mangled the Klingons in STD/DISCO, how do you think they'll handle them in the Picard series? Tbh, I think they'll try to capture the most superficial elements of the TNG/DS9 era Klingons... but might miss the nuance they had. Like, for example... this is something I think is consistent with the lore. Like Chuck had said, the Khitomer Accords to the Battle of Wolf 359 was their version of the 1990s for the US. A period of relative peace and stability. But for the Klingons, I tend to think, and this isn't confirmed, but not denied either, that K'mpec had ruled for so long, perhaps since the early 24th century, that when he died, it left a power vacuum. And Gowron was a good alternative to traitors like the House of Duras. K'mpec strikes me as a moderate compared to the old infighting plaguing the Klingon Empire of the 23rd century. But do you think those in charge will grasp that kind of complexity? I mean, this requires repeat viewings to get that kind of balanced perspective, and as Chuck noted, the problem is Trek fans, let alone the writers, have their own interpretation on what Trek is and should be. I maintain they gave Klingons two dicks because they looked at two TNG episodes, "Yesterday's Enterprise" and "Ethics," where Worf was sneering at how weak human women could be, and how Dr. Russell said Klingons have redundant systems, perhaps even looking to Voyager episodes like "The Disease" and how "she doesn't have the equipment we need but it all works out in the end in ways you can't imagine," and applied that to STD/DISCO. That would explain how they could ignore that ABC logic in the stuff with Jadzia, Bashir, Worf, and Ezri, which makes this impossible. But now I'm rambling. Point is, what do you guys think?

TNG Klingons had nuance outside of Worf?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

*Scans Yuka's post for the word DISCO or STD*

Yes, in that context in the mind of Yuka, the Klingon empire in TNG even aside from Worf was more nuanced than Napoleon's empire.

[Yukaphile]

Don't put words in my mouth. It's the nuance of storytelling, how it correlates with a culture and their history, and so on. Also try and dispute my points please rather than just satirizing.

[Darth Wedgius]

I've read that it'll be on Amazon Prime, and I've unsubscribed from Hulu in favor of Amazon Prime (I've got a line in the sand to subscribe to at most two streaming services, we Sith are fond of rules of two) so I might have a chance to watch it. If given the opportunity, I'll at least give it a try.

If that's going to be "Amazon Prime except in the U.S. or Canada," never mind.

[Jonathan101]

Just a rumour, so take with a grain of salt:

Rumor: Alex Kurtzman Fired By CBS – Test Shows For Star Trek: Picard Are Horrible

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/06/ ... -horrible/

[Mecha82]

Just like with all other rumors I believe it when it's confirmed to be true. Not any sooner.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Wikipedia says the show comes out in late 2019. That was sooner than I expected and I'm anticipating the show.