Trump Lambasting Diverse Congress People

[Karha of Honor]

I rather have Bush back in office I wasn't fond of him but at least he was less likely to piss people off by stuff he said

Hell no, i don't miss that guy.
He pissed people of by what he did.

[CmdrKing]

The only things Trump could do to diminish his support amongst his base is close the concentration camps or affirm the right to abortion in hard law rather than depending on Roe vs Wade, both of which would be hard reversals of 2 of his like 4 discernible policy positions. Little real chance of that.

Getting Pelosi to knock off alienating the left for five fucking minutes can only help the Democrats maintain cohesion in their base, since secretly it's only the word "socialism" that's unpopular, not most of the typical Democrat Left policy positions, so that's a thing. Still probably not a real sea change, although I guess keeping any more of Trump's cabinet from resigning over the Epstein thing might be good for him.

[sayla0079]

Oh I agree Karha I wasn't a fan of him either I was just saying as stated above we can have bad presidents but get worse ones later on

[clearspira]

The only things Trump could do to diminish his support amongst his base is close the concentration camps or affirm the right to abortion in hard law rather than depending on Roe vs Wade, both of which would be hard reversals of 2 of his like 4 discernible policy positions. Little real chance of that.

Getting Pelosi to knock off alienating the left for five fucking minutes can only help the Democrats maintain cohesion in their base, since secretly it's only the word "socialism" that's unpopular, not most of the typical Democrat Left policy positions, so that's a thing. Still probably not a real sea change, although I guess keeping any more of Trump's cabinet from resigning over the Epstein thing might be good for him.

Concentration camps

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I would say he has less authority than Bush and Obama had.

If you care to explain, then I'll consider going further off topic with you.

The only things Trump could do to diminish his support amongst his base is close the concentration camps or affirm the right to abortion in hard law rather than depending on Roe vs Wade, both of which would be hard reversals of 2 of his like 4 discernible policy positions. Little real chance of that.

lol (@ the concept of potentially losing his constituency)

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Oh I agree Karha I wasn't a fan of him either I was just saying as stated above we can have bad presidents but get worse ones later on

Well I get what you were saying, and I think it's a good measure of prosperity to a degree (so try not to get me wrong),but I personally hate playing that game.

These people were considered enemies of the people by a figure potentially bounded by up to half the voting populace, then suddenly they start to get praise retroactively by not being the people that today hates.

[Yukaphile]

And that's precisely why I'm gonna start ignoring you, Mr. "Honor."

[LittleRaven]

Concentration camps

This is a problem with language.

By the strict definition, ICE facilities are indeed "concentration camps," as in, people are concentrated within them. But the flip side of that is that there's nothing innately offensive about the notion of a concentration camp - every nation in the world runs some flavor of camp, most run several. It's simply unavoidable once you reach any kind of scale, and it is not generally considered to be inhumane.

But of course, when an American hears the term "concentration camp," they don't think "place where people are temporarily housed for some reason." They think extermination facility. And if ICE is actually running anything like that, then I haven't seen any evidence of it. Frankly, even attempting to draw parallels between "confining people to a location under legitimate authority" and "herding people into Zyklon-B showers" is at best deeply misleading and at worst outright offensive, but there you go.

[LittleRaven]

Getting Pelosi to knock off alienating the left for five fucking minutes can only help the Democrats maintain cohesion in their base, since secretly it's only the word "socialism" that's unpopular, not most of the typical Democrat Left policy positions, so that's a thing.

Pelosi is just looking at the last election. The Democrats won 2 Senate seats and 41 House seats. Out of those, exactly 0 were won by the Left.

The Left was not without victories, of course. All 4 of the now infamous "squad" forced their way into the legislature in 2018. But they did it by replacing other Democrats, not Republicans. Pelosi knows who it is that puts Democrats into office, and it isn't the Left. If that ever changes, so will her stance.

[CmdrKing]

Actually they're these kinds of concentration camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internmen ... _Americans

You may remember this as roughly the third most shameful chapter in American history (after the genocides and letting slavery continue into the mid-late 19th century).

Ignoring of course that these camps are more concentrated and prone to disease than those were.
Also y'know in terms of "stages of genocide" there is no intermediate step between "concentration camp" and "extermination camps". It's a smooth transition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_stages_of_genocide

Good to know you're willing to do the work of brownshirts and deny these are humans who don't deserve such treatment though.