The 13th Doctor announced

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Starbug wrote:
nebagram wrote:He also wrote Cyberwoman, so don't get too optimistic.
Oh fuck me, I'd managed to forget about that abomination...

Someone please pass the brain bleach.

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Starbug wrote:
Arkle wrote:
Starbug wrote:Essentially, they have put diversity targets ahead of everything, including quality.
A very common refrain from bigots, because what's implicit in that statement is that you are admitting that you have trouble accepting that soemone who isn't what society through centuries of opression and propaganda has convinced you is the Default (cishet white male) could possibly be good at their jobs. It's an ugly little racket that's gone on for years.

1: Bigots keep marginzalized people from getting jobs.
2: As a result, marginalized people often don't get the chance to get skilled in said job, with those that do having to bust their asses harder than their colleagues just to be seen as EQUAL to their colleagues.
3: "We're not [_____]ist, we just only want to hire people with experience."
4: Lather, rinse, repeat.

Let me point out another reason this "agenda" argument is stupid and eveyrone who makes it is in fact sexist, no matter how much they claim they aren't (because for some reason white dudes think that only they can be the arbiter of who is truly being bigoted). The show runner has worked with this actress before! That right there should put a nail in the coffin of "she was only chosen because she's a woman and the BBC is made up of SJeWs and Beta Cucks." If Chibnall didn't think she could do it, he wouldn't have brought her on. You might as well try to tell me that Samuel L. Jackson was only in the Hateful Eight to fill an affirmative action quota and not the fact that he's worked with the director several times before. That arugment would be just as stupid.
Well then let me get down on my knees and beg forgiveness for supporting the idea of meritocracy in a organisation that hides behind its government issued charter and is funded by anyone who wants to watch any form of TV, be it traditional broadcast or streaming/on-demand, in the UK.

And yes, they are actually arguing that you should need a TV licence to watch Netflix.

I don't have a problem with the idea of making sure a that every part of society is represented on TV. I actually think it's a good thing. But I am concerned about a growing culture within the BBC that you must contain X amount of Y within your show, regardless of how that might affect quality. I'll accept anyone playing the Doctor, so long as they're good at it and have creative, well written scripts to work with.
Not a mod here, obviously, but it seems to me rather poor form, to put it mildly, to attack the posts of someone who has been forbidden from continuing to participate in the discussion, since they have no legitimate way of responding and defending themselves.

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The Romulan Republic wrote:Not a mod here, obviously, but it seems to me rather poor form, to put it mildly, to attack the posts of someone who has been forbidden from continuing to participate in the discussion, since they have no legitimate way of responding and defending themselves.

Its the internet debate equivalent of hitting someone who's hands are tied behind their back.
Something someone who is an actual Mod here brought up with me in a Private Message, as is the proper place to do so. But I will tell you what I told them: I posted my response before seeing that Arkle had been booted from the discussion, and I had considered the subject closed, which if it's all the same with you, I will now go back to.
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Durandal_1707 wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:Yeah, saying that Doctor Who is too British is like saying that Superman is too American. Kind of missing the point.
One of the most fun things about watching DW as an American is that it gives you a sense of what watching most sci-fi is like for the rest of the world. Instead of New York and Washington, now it's London and Cardiff that the aliens are always invading, and they all speak with British accents while doing it. :D
I mean it's fine but when they always go to some place that was supposed to be (let's say) an American space colony (or an American astronaut) everyone has British accents. Which is weird because they would do German accents, and a hell lot of others but not American.
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Well, you see that's because in the future, Americans will learn how to speak properly and spell words correctly.

And if my sarcasm wasn't clear enough, the government uses chem-trails to control the sky, global cooling is a myth in Game of Thrones, and breathing isn't required for the continuation of life.
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British "American" accents in Dr Who are often hilariously bad, especially in the old run. Best anyone seems to manage is a half-assed John Wayne.
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We're still getting revenge for Dick Van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins.

There's a lot of bad American accents to go before we can accept payback for that.
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Fixer wrote:We're still getting revenge for Dick Van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins.

There's a lot of bad American accents to go before we can accept payback for that.
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Been my experience most Brits can pull off a better American accent than most Americans can do British accents. One example that comes to mind, I knew Jamie Bamber was British well before his role in Battlestar but his accent was very convincing.
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MadAmosMalone wrote:Been my experience most Brits can pull off a better American accent than most Americans can do British accents. One example that comes to mind, I knew Jamie Bamber was British well before his role in Battlestar but his accent was very convincing.
Also Hugh Laurie who's accent was so convincing in his audition for House that one of the producers was shocked to find he was actually English.
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