Once again, minorities get the short end of the stick.

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clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
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clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
Really? You're not aware that it's the United States where this article takes place?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:49 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
Really? You're not aware that it's the United States where this article takes place?
Yes, the country where Indians, East Asians, and Jews outperform Whites by every metric.
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Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:43 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:49 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
Really? You're not aware that it's the United States where this article takes place?
Yes, the country where Indians, East Asians, and Jews outperform Whites by every metric.
Right, I assume at least. Affirmative Action was set up in light of African Americans issues, unless I'm mistaken. I believe there are other minorities too aside from those that have been listed between these two posts.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:46 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:43 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:49 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
Really? You're not aware that it's the United States where this article takes place?
Yes, the country where Indians, East Asians, and Jews outperform Whites by every metric.
Right, I assume at least. Affirmative Action was set up in light of African Americans issues, unless I'm mistaken. I believe there are other minorities too aside from those that have been listed between these two posts.
And here we can see a goalpost move. Your original post states that Whites are "favored overall in society" and now you are claiming its in relative to Africans.
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Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:43 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:49 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:00 am The title of this thread amuses me given how many universities are guilty of ''positive discrimination'' whereby white men are second class citizens compared to women and minorities.
Technically the lowest performing white men as part of the dominant group get curbed out. That doesn't exactly entail them being second class citizens, especially considering they're the dominant group that gets favored overall in society given the circumstances that AA addresses.
Where is this country where white men get favoured overall in society out of interest?
Really? You're not aware that it's the United States where this article takes place?
Yes, the country where Indians, East Asians, and Jews outperform Whites by every metric.
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TGLS wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:58 pm
Except apparently be admitted to Harvard:
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Whites are somewhere around 65% of the population and are around 60-70% on that chart.

Indians and Asians may have been combined but together can't be more than 10% of the population, but make up around 20% approaching 25% of the chart.

Jews appear to be lumped together with whites so that's not helpful.
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Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:51 pm
And here we can see a goalpost move. Your original post states that Whites are "favored overall in society" and now you are claiming its in relative to Africans.
If a minority is shunned, then the dominant class tends to be favored, yes.

That's not really goal post switching, that's saying the same thing in two different ways.
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I mean I try to remember to be a little more pertinent with explicit data etc... but yeah they are rather reflexive statements, at least given that clearspira was the one who initiated the claim of AA being directly against whites.

If you flip it that way then you have to addendum the factors accordingly and it changes things.
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