So I've been thinking about checking out the Stargate franchise

[Yukaphile]

I'm a completionist. For better or worse...

[Darth Wedgius]

There are several novels, including novels that are sequels to the original Stargate movie and have nothing to do with the TV shows. There are also comics and video games. Oh, and fan fiction, too. Some of which involves crossovers, with B5, Doctor Who, and My Little Pony (seriously), among others.

I long ago decided not to be a completionist.

[Mecha82]

Being completionist is endless rabbit hole that needs to be avoided for both sanity and for maintaining good personal economic situation.

[Yukaphile]

You know how I harp on "continuity?" This is more of that.

[Yukaphile]

I finished Season 1.

[Beastro]

... any reason why I should avoid SGU?

It's a New BSG imitator which fails to make its way on its own having all the faults of BSG and none of the benefits, much less possessing any of its own.

About the best thing said about it was it knew it wasn't going to last and so wrapped itself up, but that itself completely undercut the entire premise which was the ship heading off to discover some unknown message that might be as big as revealing the Meaning of Life or something.

That bit itself seems to highlight the trouble TV Stargate had with scope: it's either a rehash of the Goa'uld conflict, silly and simple, or it goes for the big existential stuff and loses itself in too big a picture.

Atlantis was just SG-1 2.0 while Universe was getting too much into the Ancients and Transcendence territory with its huge mission.

So... Atlantis is like DS9?

No, more like Voyager with a mix of Enterprise "needing to be tough because it's post-9/11" thing. It transplants the same old story somewhere else and then has the cast do a lot of weird things as the balance their self-interest and their ideals without any self-awareness.

It's been ages since I watched the show, but I can recall them running into similar problems of self-righteousness Voyager did which ignored what they've done in other episodes. IIRC, how they antagonize the Genii feels comparable to how Voyager's crew behaves in Alliances.

[Yukaphile]

Kinda like how early DISCO, STD Season 1, was basically just aping Game of Thrones, huh? I could really see Bryan Fuller eating that up, tbh...

[AquaReggie]

The Klingons have had a Game of Thrones vibe since TNG, i.e. they were a feudal aristocracy who were far less honorable then they pretended to be before George R. R. Martin's works. If you're referring to the Mirror Universe - ehh I enjoyed the idea of the MirrorU in Star Trek more than the execution since it often defaults to Chaotic Stupid/Stupid Evil levels of backstabbing.

[Yukaphile]

DISCO Season 1 literally turned them into Orks, made them more "alien" for the "sake of being alien" and to conform to a narrow-minded puerile worldview, and yet tried to make them conservative analogues at the same time they said they were like "tribal African people," OMG, are they serious? Season 2 DISCO changed their looks back, and thank God, that's the first and best decision they made. Good riddance. Season 1 is a bad joke, the literal STD of the franchise. Hell, Season 1 TNG fits that mold too, don't misunderstand. So, I guess it depends what "type" of STD you want, lol. The franchise just needs a good inoculation.

[AquaReggie]

Your wit is scintillating... or it was the first 10 times you made such jokes. And you've shifted the goalposts on claiming Game of Thrones inspiration.